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Frustration

I'm sorry but no. This is just taking the piss now. I was at the game on sunday, and I don't care that we lost 4 - 1. At the time I was disheartened to see us thrashed in that way, but I don't care because we put in the effort (with the exception of Pistone who has always been a lazy bastard), and I would support the team all the way down to the conference so long as they always put in the effort for the club.
I only wish the same could be said of the boardroom. This tit-for-tat bollocks between the directors is ridiculous. For years they've done fuck all, but watch our fantastic club be run into the ground. It is only now, when the grumblings from the supporters has turned into a desperate roar for them to get off their rich arses and do something, that investment proposals have been announced.
So Kenwright's got £20m quid worth of investment. Brilliant. Great. Why am I reading in Dave Prentice's article in todays Echo about an alleged letter from Gregg to Moyes concerning a counter proposal?
Excuse me, but aren't we all rooting for a common cause. Why is there a counter proposal? Why can't we just have investment from all angles? Call me ignorant but if Gregg can get £15m or more, and Kenwright can get £20m, why can't we have £35m quid coming in? Why does it have to be one or the other?
Is the relationship between the directors that petty that they won't work together for the common cause, and are reduced to sniping at one another through the media with sound bites. And now Gregg is seemingly trying to bring Moysie onside, with the promise of even more money for transfers. All I can call the current goings on are petty, childish, and moral reducing for the manager, players, and fans. Ultimately it will also prove unproductive in obtaining maximum investment for the club.
Two more things:
1) How can John, in his e-mail on the 19th, have the nerve to slate Kilbane. Never breaks a sweat? The fucker never stops running, and he is the only player we have (with the exception of Rooney), who can actually go past someone. And Bent, crap? The touches he put on the ball on Sunday instantly improved our attack and midfield. For less than 1/2 a mil, he is a very clever buy.
2) Rooney. Everyone's favorite subject. What's the delay? Money? He already earns more in a week than I do in a year. Most fans who pay to watch him won't earn more in the course of their working lives than he has already, and he's only 18. Trophy's and medals? Owen has just gone to Real Madrid where he'll win all that shite, and he's still only 24.
Rooney has around 15-16 years to go playing in the top flight, does he have to go so soon? But then there's the argument he might get injured and never play again. But would he rather say he ended his playing days early at Everton, going down as a martyr in club history, or for some team he doesn't care about. Where is his so called love for the club?
I'm sorry to rant, but it has been building up for a while. Sort it out blues! DMc (21/08/04)

Players Effort

I was very disappointed to read about the criticism directed at Moyes and players following the defeat to Arsenal on Sunday. Ok, it was a poor performance but to complain about the players efforts is just wrong and especially the effort of Kevin Kilbane who according to this fan "fails to break sweat."
People are already forgetting that we played Arsenal in that first game, the best team on the planet!!!
I know that other teams will be beaten more than 4-1 so lets just get behind the players and hope that they can put some good performances together and prove the doubters wrong. Ben S (21/08/04)

Everything and Anything

Its good to know that I'm not the only one who occasionally thinks what is blue eyes harping on about. Does anyone really care what a person wears to a football match (no I don't wear sandals). The £20 million is great but when will it arrive and where will it go?

I feel really let down by Rooney you think you have a player who cares about Everton but we hear nothing but silence. I just want him to sign or go and decide soon. Whilst he is a world class player he is just a player Everton Football Club will survive with him or without him (preferably with him).

Going off at a tangent slightly I would just like to say I wish MR FRANCIS JEFFERS (Town hall clock) all the very best with his recent move to Charlton. Those Supporters who like me witnessed your header against Chelsea away from an open goal hope you continue that kind of form. Who can forget your comments about how Rooney should move away from Everton when you're most successful performances in the premiership where during your first spell at EFC? Lets hope for a good performance on Saturday. Graham (21/08/04)

Gravesen

What ever happened to the days when footballers got paid for playing, concentrating on perfecting their skills. Now they have to comment on ever f***ing thing under the sun except their own inability to play what they are getting very handsomely paid for, without putting in their two penneth worth and making it worse, no wonder the press have a field day with us. Its a pity he didn't play for Catterick he would have had boot marks all over his very ample backside. I am surprised that Moyes doesn't fine the little shit or has he lost the bottle
it does not help Everton at all saying Moyes is all stressed out, and how upset he is. Just get on with it Tommy, try and pretend you are a footballer if you can, and to any other player who wishes to make comments, think of the shit you are stirring up just play football, Les Mckay (21/08/04)

Trials and Tribulations

What a desperate way to start a season: We used to start it thinking about the top 5, then mid table mediocrity and now 17th place!
Over 15-20 years the club has mismanaged its assets and treated its fans awfully, both in terms of on the pitch achievements and communications about the business.
Kenwright has his heart in the right place but football is a business and cannot be run on emotions alone.
Gregg is an arrogant businessman with no regard for the club, but does have some sound points to make about running the club as a business and , if he is sincere, about fan involvement.

Like all your correspondents I have been a committed fan for 30 years or more. I have also on a couple of occasions attempted to meet Kenwright, Dunford and Carter to offer my own perspective on resurrecting the financial standing of the club. These thoughts have been met with indifference and contempt as though it is not possible for anyone outside of a very small clique to have expertise.

Gregg is right in saying the board desperately needs to be reinvented, however I seriously question his motives, unlike Kenwright!
The wider Everton public must be involved in a future rights issue and a permanent representation on the board.It is necessary to also seek external investment to make any rights issue relevant to the needs of a premiership club. The net for this external investment cannot be limited to a small group of friends of the current board.

300,000 Evertonians worldwide (genuine/not loose affinity) may not represent the potential of two or three other clubs we could mention: However it is significantly better than most and offers multi million pound investment potential. Allied to serious business backers who want to run a profitable football business, if necessary out of Goodison Park, it is the only way of moving forward.

Let us find a collective way to take this forward as a matter of urgency and make Kenwright and Gregg either move over or move ahead! Mark (21/08/04)

Optimistic

Yes.. I have to agree, we looked decidedly average against what is probably the finest footballing side that has been seen since the football league was formed. Everton have problems, too many to go into but, to summarize, we know we have an aging squad, a distinct lack of pace in the side and serious financial problems, Man U haven’t got any of these problems yet they also got dinked by Arsenal with a similar scoreline the week before which kind of puts a perspective on 4-1, it wasn’t an embarrassing 4-1 either, if Super had been rightly awarded a penalty after Cygan had rugby tackled him in the area and/or if killa could have just headed 1 inch under the bar rather than over then things might have been different.. we’d probably have lost but we wouldn’t have had to chase the game for such long periods. So lets not get despondent about this result fellow blues as it can and will happen to most teams the gooners play this year, lets face it, despite our problems I still think (even without the promised investment) that we have a better side than WBA, Norwich, Palace and Portsmouth .. at the very least. Fuck me, if Villa can get into the top 6 then we might even be good enough for Europe with a couple of additional faces !! Matt, Northants. (21/08/04)

Premature Relegation

This doom and gloom is all a bit premature. I don't like the fact that Super comes out waving a white flag, even if we did get a good thrashing from the Gooners, its way to early to be talking relegation, I know it may be a real possibility this year but I don't want the Blues going out on the pitch on the second weekend thinking, shit we are going down this season. I think we are paying too much attention to these reporters and so called expert football pundits, predicting that we are out of there. I say fuck em'.

The season is one game old and I'm not going to give up hope yet, yeah so we've got some pretty ordinary players and not much hope of many better ones coming in, but surely we are better than the three that have come up at least.

I shout and swear at these players as much as the next toffee, but I will still support them no matter what and I hope the majority of you blues would stand next to me.

Lets stop talking relegation because these players might believe it, then we will be really fucked. What they need is support, and lots of it, lets pump up the volume and help our lads shit all over the doubters.

Come on you blues. Ocker (21/08/04)

This season

It might be an unfashionable thing to think at the moment, but I've been thinking hard about this for a while now, and what this season comes down to is Everton Football Club. Nothing more and nothing less.

Look at the team we have now - certainly there are players in there who wouldn't be anywhere near the first teams of the top three, but for anyone else to look at us and really feel superior is simply laughable. We had a (slightly) worse season last season than the standard of players at the club could have led us to expect, and the team now is, if anything, slightly better than the one that started last season. As for the idea I've heard from a few people recently that Marcus Bent isn't the sort of player that ambitious sides would go for, perhaps that's true - but is he really a much worse player than Tomasz Radzinski? Anyone who's had to watch him week in week out in any of the past few years knows that for all his pace and semi-hard work, Radzinski is not the man to play if you need goals.

Other players we let go include Jeffers, who outside of the FA Cup managed only one shot on target of any note all last season, Tobias Linderoth who never really looked convincing in the Premiership, Scott Gemmill and Steve Simonsen. It's hard to see us really missing any of them. While losing Unsworth was a bit of a blow, Gary Naysmith looks capable with a bit of a run in the side of doing OK at left back. Then we've signed Cahill and Bosnar. Cover looks slight at best, but if I'm choosing between players who are on upwards of #10,000 per week and not performing or youngsters eager to make a difference then its goodbye from Toby and its goodbye from Scott.

And then there's Wayne Rooney. We provided possibly the best player in the European Championships, and our reward was... well, we all know what our reward has been. But at the moment one of Europe's best players is still at Goodison Park, and when he's fit he'll prove to the Premiership what he's proved to us, that he can help us to get better as a side.

So why was there so much trouble over the pre-season? Money is certainly a major issue, but the situation isn't worse now than before, it's just not better. The only real reason for the hyper-pressure of the past couple of months is that we told Manchester Utd they couldn't afford Rooney. Forget about the fact that the Mancs themselves agreed with this, for the national press this is like a red rag to a bull. And in they came.

But they haven't shown us anything we, and surely the staff at the club, didn't already know. The boardroom shenanigans were a bit unnecessary, and show a worrying tendency for wobbling when hard times hit, but we have no more to worry about than any of the previous four seasons.

This isn't exactly how I want to see Everton going into a new season, but really we need to take a look at ourselves and remember that nothing's worse for us now than it was this time last year, or the year before. And as for the Arsenal game, well it was pretty terrible to have to watch, but I've seen us play worse, and if the only requirement for relegation is being beaten by Arsenal this season there's going to be forty something sides in the Coca Cola Championship in 2005-6. It's a long way to say it, but I suppose all I really mean is don't let it get to you. We're in no worse danger than about ten other Premiership sides, and we're also in no worse danger than we have been for the last ten or so years. Let's get that sorted, then we can think about getting back to where we belong. Rory O'Keeffe. (19/08/04)

Arsenal Game and Our shite players

David Moyes quotes, "i wasn't disappointed by the players efforts". Well David if that's good enough for everton then you know where the door is!

Reyes Goal was due to the attacker running across the defenders blind side. He ran across the defender when the first cross came in and then just total ball watching took place by yobo, stubbs and naysmith, when the second cross came in, plus pistone could have made a better effort to block the cross. It was school boy errors. David Moyes tactics were totally wrong. How can you leave a massive spaces in midfield when you have quality all over the place in arsenals team!

i did not think that we would win, however, i expected us to frustrate arsenal by getting bodies behind the ball and have a bit of desire and fight. We had nothing we could not get close to kick them! How can you put a young lad osman on the right wing, when i know arsenal attack down the left with reyes henry pires and cole. double up steve watson and pistone??? Put osman in the middle, because i do not want to see carsley play for everton again he was neither here or there!!

Lee Carsley is a coca cola league player along with bent, and kilbane. i don't like the fact that have bought players off teams that have gone down! Kilbane never breaks sweat, bent is crap. naysmith or unsworth???? i know the one i would have in there!! o he's gone to pompy on a free!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is David Moyes planning to take us down? how can you release 8 players and replace them with no one or turd! You must of known there was no money, so why get rid David? Is it the wage bill? Then fuck the useless kunts off Campbell mcfadden, kilbane, bent, carsley, weir, naysmith! They are not everton players! Cahill???/? one good season in the coca cola league!!!!!!!!!!!!! we will have to wait!!!! What a fucking joke, laughing stock of the prem!

20 million bill my arse!!! was that a statement to stop angry fans protesting? That is not enough Bill and to late, why was it not sorted in may or june???

nicky butt 2.5m, danny murphy 2.5m, gronkjaer 2.5m, hughes free, parlour free, hasselbaink free, diouf loan, petit no club!!, kanu free, carlton cole loan, helveg free. The list could continue Bill.

how can you pay 3.5m for carrick when we could of had nicky butt a full england international player who has won countless medals for 2.5m? Sorry for being negative, but i am so annoyed, with the lethargic, it can be done later attitude. COME ON BLUES SORT IT OUT. Great site. John. (19/08/04)

Once a Blue????????????????????

As usual thanks for keeping us fully informed. In the photograph Sausage looks more like you should be in charge of EFC than Paul Gregg. I have just come back from hols and the confusion and lack of information (from EFC) is very worrying. I have had to rely on BBC 5 LIVE for all my footy news and to be fair they did quite well.

The fact that Wayne's family do not appear to have taken up the option of their box at Goodison is baffling. If they are true blues why would they not want to watch EFC even if their son was playing somewhere else in a different coloured shirt? To me "Once a blue" only refers to the people who have supported EFC THROUGH THICK AND THIN. I was in the City centre today and was overwhelmed by Mums and Dads walking round, getting on buses, getting on trains with their children, boys and girls kitted out in the new kit. THESE ARE TRUE BLUES...................ONCE A BLUE.

I do circuit training in a local school and before we start there is a children's (aged up to 8) football school. Out of the 40 who attend about 15 are little girls and guess what shirt they all turn up in.................EFC kit. When Jimmy Gabriel was at Southampton he used to come back to Aintree with his wife to visit his Mother in Law. He told us in the pub that he would crawl all the way back to be a part of EFC......ONCE A BLUE.
To be honest I am embarrassed writing this letter because you know all these things (and more) that we write in about. I could go on for ever but I don`t want to waste your time.

Once again Many, Many thanks for the site. Good luck to all and best wishes to Mr.Moyes. I just hope we surprise everyone with the spirit that seems to be coming out of the players. Ernie. (19/08/04)

Question For Paul Gregg

I am a Blues fan (36 years) now living in the United States. I arrived back this week, to Florida, from the Houston Tournament to find questions to Paul Gregg could be asked. While I missed the opportunity, the only question that can get asked is this.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF OWNERS. ONE THAT HATES LOSING MONEY AND ONE THAT HATES LOSING GAMES. WHICH ARE YOU? Hylton. (19/08/04)

My Nightmare

It is obvious to anybody who loves this club that many of the issues go further back than we care to remember.
When SIR JOHN left it suddenly became 'we have no money' and SIR HOWARD had no cash. The way forward involved redeveloping the stadium at the park end and this would solve all our problems, however our problems were solved for a time when SIR HOWARD created the super team of the eighties on very little cash by buying good youth for the cash he had (heath and steven) and great last chance heroes (grey and reid) and good solid professionals (bailly,harper, southall) others who were to become true blue legends such as gary stevens and kevin sheedy proved that opportunity brings great rewards.
SIR HOWARD did not do this overnight and not all of his signings were of any calibre, in fact some of them were downright embarrassing ferguson and billey anyone?
David Moyes now stands at the same threshold that SIR HOWARD once did. his board is in disarray, his team is falling apart at the seams with players wanting to jump ship, players who wont jump ship even when pushed and players who demand to see the books before deciding whether to go or not (once a blue my arse)
and again the redevelopment of the ground is seen as the panacea for our problems.

Even if we say yes to a new ground tomorrow (and we should)! it will take years to put together.

How about this, tell the board to sort it out amongst themselves and not in the press
tell Moyes he is still the best young manager in the country and let him do his stuff
sell ferguson to whoever wants him on monday morning for nothing and accept the loss as a way of ridding ourselves of a bad apple turning the rest of the team bad.
let good players past their sell by date go and fill the holes with untried youth that moyes has faith in and let us have faith in him.

SIR HOWARD sold six players on a monday morning because they broke curfew, That was telling everybody who was the boss

David Moyes is the boss not gregg not kenwright not overpaid players and their man united backed agents or existing players who want to see the books, want to see the future signings or want to see a contact that sees them into their late thirties
OUR STAR OF THE FUTURE ISNT WAYNE ITS MOYES
IT WAS HOWARD WHO TURNED IT ROUND LETS GIVE MOYES THE SAME BREAK

IM SORRY ABOUT THE LENGHTH OF THIS E-MAIL BUT IM HURTING. LES JACKSON. (19/08/04)

Gregg

It appears to me that Paul Gregg wants to sell Goodison Park. If he doesn't come clean on his backers we should keep Bill Kenwright until someone better than Gregg comes along. Mike Kendrick. (19/08/04)

Goodison is my second home

I have supported Everton since I was a Sperm. I consider Goodison as my second home. My Favourite Players are Joey Yobo, Roonaldo and Richie Wright. On your look-alikes Section how come Edgar David's is Compared To Stevie Wonder When E.D is not an Everton Player (even though i would love to see him in the New Fishy Section). I'm lovin the Rivaldo, Okocha and Dellas Rumours and Your Look-alikes section.
I hated the Rumour of Red*****'s own Danny Murphy. Is Seitaradis really signing for us? Liverpool Are Gay. Heres A new Look-alike Pair for you Roberto Carlos and Mini me. From Thomas Gill. 12 of Knotty Ash. (19/08/04)

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