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Our History

There is a lot of talk about our history at Everton. Well here's a piece of fact that worries me. Everton have only lost 6 league games before Christmas twice in the last 50 years. The first time was 1950/51 when we were relegated and the second time was 1993/94 season which took a major exchange of brown envelopes and most of the crowd needing a new pair of underpants long before the end of the game. I think personally David Moyes has lost his way which is a shame as he looked like the real deal for us but his downfall has been the transfer market which ultimately will be seen as his Achilles heel. David Moyes came to us with the potential to be a great manager but picked the wrong club to further his career as he is never likely to work again for a bigger shower of gobshites and arseholes(the board) as he has over the last four years. Thanks Dave you did your best but at least you can walk away were stuck with the cunts till they put us out of our misery and bury us.

ps Sack the chef in legends before he kills someone. Paul Martin. Disaffected blue. (31/12/05)

Lack Of Vision

Moyes reckons the answer to our problems is to keep working hard and to keep to doing the right things in training... Well if he calls the performances in 2005 the 'right things' then obviously the message and statistics are not getting through his ginger barnet! We have little width, no penetration, no positive consistency in attacking selections and line ups and he doesn't even know the best positions for 5 or 6 of his players. We need to be working on creativity and aiming to move forward by playing smarter football... not headless chicken chasing. In the derby what tactics did we have other than the back for pumping the ball towards beats in the hope he may get a flick on? what kind of tactics are they? Moyes simply can't see the wood for trees.. he just stands on the byline looking at whats going on without being able to digest and interperate the real issues as to why we are struggling. He's been here nearly four years. We have NEVER been an exciting side to watch, and in our two 'good' seasons have finished with a negative goal difference. I don't think we will ever see a side finished top 4 again with a more goals against column. We were bloody lucky and shouldn't still be living off it. Edward Riley. (31/12/05)

Happy New Year

Dear Bluekipper, Could you please send someone round to pinch me. According to our Number 2, he and our Number 1 have not spent much time talking about possible transfer targets. Surely they are not leaving it to BK and KW to sign "SUTTON, McLEOD, CONCALVES, BASINAS, PICHLMANNE, HALMOSI, WHALEY, LENNON, EARNSHAW and SHITTU (Dan to his mates) all on their little lonesome. He says they have been busy in training.......surely not about defending, attacking, scoring or even closing a midfield down. Do me a favour Number 2 give the great EVERTONIANS of this site a bit of credit. Number 2 also says he is looking for 6 points over the next 2 games...so are we mate!!!!

Just 1 point from BOLTON, WEST HAM, ASTON VILLA and the RS would have done us. Sunderland is a massive game for EFC and its supporters and the day after the January sales start. I will be at T.J.Hughes to see if I can pick up a bargain to assist BIFFA in his quest for goals. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AT BLUEKIPPER and the "GREAT BLUES" who continually write in. Blueernie. (31/12/05)

Get Behind The Team

WE ARE IN A BAD WAY; BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND THE MANAGER ESPECIALLY. SO COME ON U BLUES. LIKE SOMEONE ONCE SAID "WE ARE THE PEOPLE'S CLUB". LET'S PROVE THAT SOMEONE RIGHT. EVERTON, EVERTON, EVERTON. If anyone can...DUNCANCAN. Pentwyll. (31/12/05)

Leave Moyes Alone

If you people are really Evertonians then you will shut up and support the team. Everton are great. We are just going through a bad time so sort yourselves out! For christ's sake! If you are that pissed off go and support the redshite or Wigan! Leave Moyes alone. He's got most players injured anyway. blue gurl. (30/12/05)

Enough Is Enough

MOYSEY WE DID LOVE YE BUT JUST GO NOW ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Austie. Kirkdale. (31/12/05)

Should Moyes go??

out of the 3 and bit seasons Moyes has been with Everton he has pulled us out of the certain relegation fate that we were left in by Walter Smith and then went on and nearly got us into Europe the following season. Only for all this good work to be undone by one of the worst seasons in our history, the next. Then he magically manages to produce our best league position for nearly 20 years and get us into the Champions League !!! Only then to plunge us into another relegation battle and fill the club with the biggest sense of despondency I can remember.

The thing that bothers me is that Moyes seems unable to work out what changes his team from a Champions League team to what looks like a future Championship Team.

Everything that was right about last season derby win was wrong about this weeks derby defeat. The midfield was unable to put any pressure on anyone in a *** shirt, which meant they had all the time in the world to pick out their front men. The gaps left in between the back four were so big that their front men had all the time and space in the world.

Some of his buys have got to be questioned, van der Meyde has not played, Kroldrup has been sat on the bench so long watching us get battered that he is shot to bits before he has even played, Valente does not look up for the fight, Neville looks equally poor in every position he is played and Beattie is just not good enough.

If Kenwright did have the balls to fire Moyes who would he go for?? Big Sam would not leave Bolton for us, O'Neill looks like he is waiting for Ferguson to go - that only leaves someone like Dowie or Hoddle!! Unless he tries to get Joe Royle or Howard Kendal again !!

It looks like when everything is weighed up that we have to stick with Moyes and get behind the team. Sunderland away and Charlton at home could transform our season. If Moyes then pulls a rabbit or 2 out of the hat in the January sales we could end up mid table.

Moyes has wasted one golden opportunity in the summer to put this club back where it belongs at the top of English football, lets hope he does not miss his chance in January to keep us the Premiership. BLUE PRIDE !!!!! (31/12/05)

Do The Players Care?

There are only two players fit to wear the famous blue shirt - Martyn and Arteta. The rest wouldn't get into my old pub side, including Cahill. Do they care? On £25-£40K a week, er no! Holdo. (31/12/05)

Post Derby

Lets get a few facts out the way... Kevin kilbane is shite, fact. Moyes doesn't appear to know what he's doing at the moment and has signed some woeful players, fact. Bill Kenwright is a clown, fact and Kevin Kilbane is shite again, FACT!

What is consistently the only good thing about Everton?The fans! We know we've got some shite players and a chairman with no money to change things but the fans really can make a difference. We've all had our moan (and quite rightly too!), but now its time start doing what evertonians do best and really get behind the team and try to make that little bit of difference, starting at Goodison. Lets get it rocking again! No Kevin Kilbane's were hurt in the making of this e mail...unfortunately. Athers. (31/12/05)


Moyes

The last 2 matches I've been to ,villa away and the shite at home not once did i here davey moyes name praised in the pubs or around the ground you always got a good davey moyes chant but that has fallen on deaf ears are the loyal many starting to realise that he's not the man for the job. is it time for him to go now..but who do we replace with? I am always a firm believer in better the dog you know thing. Maybe we should care if he's got red hair. Sorry Davey but our beloved club is not value for money any more. I've not missed in years, but now I am giving you three away's Sunderland, Millwall and Portsmouth and they couldn't be more further away ( and put more strain on my pocket ) to put some fight back into our club. You should remind are players our clubs motto. ''nil satis nisi optimum'' and have them recite it if they don't know it. But I think that a lot of our players have got the own motto....''£££££££££££'

God help the stadium of light if they cancel our game 20 minuets before kick off. Happy new year all..... Terry. Very concerned blue. (31/12/05)

Derby & Stuff

The irony of the Derby debacle (or at least some of it) is that the first 2 goal scorers shouldn’t have even been on the pitch if the referee in the Shite v Barcodes game had done the right thing by showing them both the red card!!

Add to that the fact the Mr Liverpoll once again had a mare of a game chalking off a perfectly good Biffa strike and showing needless red cards to Arteta and Neville and you could be forgiven for thinking that we were hard done to.

In reality we were beaten by the better team (Christ I hate admitting that), they have everything we don’t, Pace, Ability and clinical finishing and all of these weaknesses HAVE TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO MOYES!!

After finishing last season with a goal difference of -1 and knowing that Duncan was looking forward to his 34th Birthday he went out and bought 2 Left Backs to add to the other 2 left backs we thought we’d seen the back of and a centre half who clearly looks shit scared in the Premier League.

We shouldn’t get distracted by Kenwright's attempts to sign Owen or Bellamy. In my opinion they were just this seasons version of Alan Smith the season before ie. Lead the fans to believe we mean business . . . .bollox!!! How did bungalow Bill intend paying these people Owen allegedly £125K.

I foe one am sick of being taken for a ride!!! It’s time I feel for Moyes and Bill to share a taxi to Fuckoffville and lets get some one in to our great Club who can lead us in the right direction and not up the garden path. Our motto ‘Only the best is good enough’ these days is more accurate as ‘mediocrity should be aspired to!!’. Chris Watson. Season Ticket Holder and Bucharest traveler (but that’s another story!!) (31/12/05)

HOPE!

There is always HOPE and I believe the boys will turn this round. We all accept that fans are entitled to opinions but if Moyes goes then so does EFC! Its been the most depressing time for us season ticket holders/Fans. Like the majority if fans DM is not a quitter and he will be hurting (and rightly so).

We must remember that this is the 'top flight'. Look at the Liverpool, Chelsea, Manure, Newcastle, Bolton squads to name but a few, they have strength and skill in depth. Alas such a big part of the game now is resources and the ability to pay big wages. Bottom line is DM needs money or agreement to pay big loan wages. We need proper business men at the top to provide this. We don't have proper business men FACT! Never mind the team and dreadful luck with injuries, the problem is and always has been at the top FACT!

DM worked miracles last year with an under strength squad. You can not maintain that. Bill K is a lovely man and a huge fan but he is a crap Chairman/football business man. If he really loves the club he should stand aside for ruthless business men. These men are needed to turn the club around as a business. I am a Director and no one invests with out having a proper business plan. They also want a return on their investment and will ensure that they get it. They invest in the team and get the rewards and they deserve the rewards when they come as its a huge gamble.

Invite in foreign investment and look to the future because its hard to look at a club that is slipping away bit by bit.

I am great believer that fortunes will change. DM is the best manager we have had for years. The shallow few will only see the short term (I understand it hurts and is hard to take). Keep The Faith and hope BK looks to enjoy the blues as a fan but bring in real investment. This will bring in real hope and real results.

Hoping and wishing all true blues a HAPPY NEW YEAR. N.S.O.N. Tony L Park End and will be back for Charlton - COYB. (31/12/05)

Keep Moyes Until End Of Season & Then Decide

First of all I’d just like to say that I don’t go to the match all that often, simply because I can’t afford it but I do watch the boys on sky and I feel extremely sorry for anyone who has paid to see them lately, they look totally inept, I can’t put my finger on what is wrong a the moment but I have to say that simply bringing back Gravesen won’t solve it as some fans seem to think.

If you watch the derby game, there was no doubt that the players wanted to win it but when 2 centre backs can’t do their jobs it’s not surprising the heads drop. If I’m honest I think Yobo needs to look at the tape and explain directly to the fans why he was jogging back instead of being right where he should have been when the shite scored the first goal and why he actually moved out of the way of Gerrard’s shot as well.

The team needs a major change around, there are some good young lads sitting in the reserves like Hughes, Wright and perhaps Anichebe (young and eager and most importantly does score a goal or two) and Vidarsson so why doesn’t Moyes give them a shot ? they might just help to change things around, in respect of Kroldrup, I heard and read many things about him being absolute shite etc etc etc but the blame for his bad debut must surely lay with Moyes, in the games where we were struggling due to Weir’ s errors etc, Moyes should have brought Per on to get him used to the game and also to shore up the defence, that way he wouldn’t have looked so out of his depth as he did against Villa.

I know it looks bleak but I do believe we will get out of it and I also believe that the time to replace Moyes, if it comes at all, is at the end of the season and not before. Andrew Boyer. (31/12/05)

It's over to you Mr Chairman

They say there's always 2 sides to an argument, on one side there's the recent e-mail from Sean Whelan and on the other there's one from Jack Warner. I'm on Jack's side, I'm sorry Sean your argument does not stack up. The players are Moyes players. We have spent £25 mil on his choices. It's not working Sean.

Look at the results for 1995. We were 4th last season because the shite and notlob had a worse run in than us. The truth is David Moyes is a good manager but he has lost the plot he can't motivate the players and they have no confidence in him. Kenwright is in a dilemma here, Moyes is his good friend but he is an Evertonian at heart. Sorry Bill at the moment I rather have Ken Bates or Doug Ellis as Chairman because they wouldn't put up with Moyes recent record.

Mr Chairman you are in charge of this club, do your duty now. We need a temporary motivator like Bobby Robson, like Peter Reid to get the team playing with passion and confidence. Lets get some hard men in on loans until the end of the season, then take our time to appoint the next manager. It's over to you Mr Chairman. WayneWales. (31/12/05)

Peaks and Troughs!!

Why do we always shoot ourselves in the foot time after time by looking too far ahead and building expectation to an unrealistic level? Moyes arrived at the club and consolidated our status in the premiership. The following season was an big improvement but expectations went from safety to 'we want europe' following that was a disaster season in which reality bit us again. Then the highs of last season, a remarkable roller coaster that nobody saw coming, especially if you were at the pre season friendly at Turf Moor!!!

Jan to Dec 2005 has been a complete disaster in terms of performance and results, we cannot sustain a decent carling cup run never mind compete in europe and in the prem. The time for investment on a proven world class performer has passed, europe is a distant, embarrassing memory, we need to stabilse our team with stable players, good honest pro's whose minimum level of performance starts at 'good'.

Why did'nt we give Stubbs the two years? What an ungracious way for a man to leave a club, Weir and Stubbs would have been perfect sharing one position the Pistone re-signing was a sham in that we ended up thanking him for not going and then giving him two years, who thinks up these deals. We then sign two other left backs beside Naysmith, that's four left backs and no cover for a local right back who does need a break as the pressure on him is now intense and his performances are as poor as the results.

We are consistently turning quality attacking midfielder's and attackers into second rate defenders, I am well aware that the first line of defence starts with the centre forward but ours spends most of his time clearing our goal line!! I am very concerned about our status, not just in this league but as a proud, credible, historic football club, we cannot keep going from such highs to such depths in so short a time, this displays the core of our club management at present, unstable from top to bottom.

We are not an attractive prospect to players as they have to become either an instant hero or saviour depending on which peak or trough we are in. Our record in the premier league on average has us in the bottom half of the table, with more than one 'never again' scenario included. There is nothing wrong with ambition but without stability it will crumble and flounder. This is my 45th season watching Everton as man and boy, my father was a proud evertonian and brought me up to be the same I will love my club forever but please give me realism and stability rather than unrealistic expectation, I really don't think I can take much more. St Pat 55. (31/12/05)

Let's get behind em!!!

I agree with Sean Whelan. Come on lets get right behind the team. Ye I know there's not much to shout about right now but come on it's not gonna do the team any good by booing em. We all know the team can perform. They showed that last year but how can they if they are getting stick all the time off the fans! Ye something's gotta give. We can't carry on like this but in the mean time just be supporters! TRUE BLUE. (31/12/05)

SCOTTISH PLAYERS AND MANAGERS

As an Evertonian exiled in Glasgow, it’s been painful to watch. Do us a favour and let Moyesy go. When your team’s struggling on the park, you don’t stand silently on the side trying to give the players the “Vulcan Death Stare”. Coaching and managing are now a science (and possibly always were). You need knowledge and imagination, and sorry DM, you don’t have them. As for the players, let Weir and McFadden go as well. Scottish football’s “mickey mouse”. No more Jocks. Trust me, I’ve seen it at first hand.

We can still stay up but it’s looking scarier every week. The “ghosts of players past” (Bally, Howard, Latch, Mick, Sharpy) must be turning in their graves. Brian Telford. (31/12/05)

TIME TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED

Not the players, we already know they need to turn it on – now it’s the Fans who need to prove they are worthy to wear the blue shirt. Lets face it, we’ve all been there, on a cold, wet, windy winters day, watching yet another dire performance from our team, and the frustration boiling away inside you needs some kind of outlet. What can we do? Realistically we’ve only got three options.

1) Leave early
2) Slag the players off
3) Support your team and show them who it is they are playing for.

I’ve never, ever, had the heart to walk out on the blues during a match. Oh I’ve felt like it, and I’ve felt like walking away from the game for good, but the trouble is I love Everton, its our club, the People’s Club, and no matter how badly the club treats me, I know I’ll be back. The club is like a wanton temptress who beguiles me with promises of what we used to have together, sometimes the club delivers, and sometimes it leaves me jilted and bemused.

And I admit that option 2 is an easier option. After all I’ve paid my money so I’m entitled to have my say if I don’t like what I see aren’t I? Oh, I’ve definitely said a few words when we’ve missed a sitter, or gifted a goal, but I don’t understand these fans who deliberately pick out a player or the manager and verbally abuse them during the game because the match isn’t going their way.

But what does that achieve? Does it make them feel any better for having “got it off their chest”? I doubt it. Maybe they just want to be able to boast about it down the pub afterwards; “I told him straight I did!”, but if a player is playing badly because they are low on confidence, then slagging him off is going to make him worse not better. The only team you’re helping if you slag our players off is the opposition. They must love coming to Goodison, knowing that the players are more scared of making individual mistakes in front of their own fans than they are of losing as a team.

Yes, these players are professionals, yes, they get paid thousand’s every week, but they are still human and if you were constantly barracked in work, you’d lose heart too wouldn’t you?

That leaves the only other realistic option available to us, the one that most of us already choose - to get behind the team and support them EVEN when they’re losing. I know its hard, I’ve been there myself and found it galling to cheer the players on when they seem to have given up – but that’s OUR job, that’s what WE are there for, because if you tell someone week in, week out that they are crap, then they might end up believing you and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

But if you cheer them on and show them that you believe in them, then they may start to believe in themselves too. So next time one of our full backs makes it to the by-line and puts his cross into the upper Gwladys, clap him for getting to the by-line, don’t barrack him for making the mistake. If you encourage him he might get forward more often, and even if 90% of the crosses end up in the stands, it only takes one to be on target for us to get a goal.

So COME ON YOU BLUES – STAND UP AND BE COUNTED! Sack the Juggler. (31/12/05)

The Board

People are criticising David Moyes but seem to be forgetting about the knobhead's on the board and yes I include that wonderful BLUE BILL. For the past two seasons we have been getting investments from people that never ever materialise, so lets not ignore these pricks when the shit is hitting the fan. Mitch. (31/12/05)

What About The Other Keane?

Having predictably failed to sign Royston Keane and seemingly blown our chances of signing Robert Keane, perhaps we'll turn our attention to their Irish cousin Notso. Yours in Royal Blue. Paul, Croxteth Park. (31/12/05)

Current Shite

This shite, has been going on for far to long we have never replaced the 80's lads, Sharpy etc. The telling difference between when we where going to sack Kendall in the early 80s was that the crowds at Goodison where very low. Today we are seeing high crowds at Goodison and from the business end of things if the crowds are turning up week in week out then they will see it as there is nothing wrong.

It is about time we let Uncle Bill know how we feel. I work in the Players lounge and get paid to watch the game. Dream job I hear you say, like shit I don't even want to get paid to watch the shite that are playing. Dixie Dean, Graeme Sharp, Sheedy, Ratcliffe, Kendall, Ball and Harvey God bless them all and thanks for the memories. I feel it will never be the same again. Unfortunately Moyes the messiah cannot attract the names eg Scott Parker going to the barcodes I rest my case. Sack them all from Chairman to the Tea lady and start from scratch. Ask the starting eleven on saturday what nil satis nisi optimum means and you will have the answer. Regards. Graeme Stokes. (31/12/05)

No more 451

Why is it that Mr Moyes is happy with a draw at half time in the derby? 4 5 1 at home does not work no more. We can't buy a goal never mind a player. Csherlocks. (31/12/05)

Relegation On The Cards

This will be the last Christmas/New Year that Evertonians will see in the Premiership for some time. The performances of the past few weeks have been diabolical. There is no saviour on a white charger on the horizon. Everton are currently in the position I expected them to be last season but by some miracle of teamwork and management I was proved totally wrong. So what is so different this year? I wish I knew but I wish Moyes, Kenwright knew even more. I think visits to Plymouth, Cardiff and Burnley are more likely than Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool next season. Keith Farley. (31/12/05)

Quote from DM

Moyesy reckons he won't have enough cash to buy who he wants. Moyesy says: "I think it will be a tight transfer window for us in terms of what we can bring in. We know what we'd like but, given the money involved, we most likely won't be able to do what we want."

How was he going to buy Michael Owen or C.Bellamy or A. Johnstone? Mike Kendrick. (30/12/05)

The Board

I agree with john Y. There's something not right at the club and to me it's down to the board. Why? What's the chairman done since he's been in charge? There's no money for the january sale's and there again what's davey boy done in the transfer market? Bought a load of crap. Yes it's down to the player's on the pitch, but like it was said before there seem's to be no pattern in the play. Frustrated blue. blue peter. (30/12/05)

Disappearing Fans

Four defeats, a sack full of goals conceded and the worst Christmas in years! Sad to say, its a bleak New Year ahead. Throughout all of this season, the one thing that concerns me almost as much as the shite we are playing, is the shite response by fans especially in the Park End who piss off home / pub / lap dance bar or to their nan's with 15 to 20 minutes to go.

Agreed, its not good to watch, agreed we deserve better, agreed its fuckin hard to watch £25k a week players playing shite, but we need to show our resolve and desire to see the blues out of the crap and we can do that by sticking with the team to the very end! There was nothing better than hearing the Street End and the Park End, singing their heads off before and during the game...................Its got to go right the way through the match. Its the only thing we can do to lift the players and help make a difference! PabForester. (30/12/05)

Quite Unbelievable

I am personally at an all-time-low. I will always love the club but something has got to give. I am quite depressed and Xmas has been shite. There has to be a big shake-up. Moyes to be Director of Football and bring Mike Newell in.........please. TRULY BLUE AT THE MOMENT. DYLAN MORGAN. (30/12/05)

Hard Times

Christmas has now passed. It's time players took it on board now what they are doing to the club, the fans ,the board, and Davie Moyes. This time last year every one was in dreamland. Now it's a mare. Sometimes you get a mauling and you have to take it on the chin, but then you sort it out for the next match. What we are seeing is park football. Everton are a team of tradition, of fight and honour. These people don't deserve to put on blue jersey of Everton., I'm sorry. I come from Cornwall at least 5 times a season. So far pompey, scum, boro in cup, bolton, and the shite. Out of that lot 1 goal has been scored. Tell me is worth it when it's costing me 90 quid a time? Amanda Gill. (30/12/05)

Leadership on the pitch.

Jesus, where do we start (worse than that; where are we going to finish), If Weir's legs are starting to go (lets face it, he never had too much pace to start with), why doesn't he try opening his fucking mouth, you used to be able to hear Peter Reid's big mouth 20 miles away on matchday, sorting shit out.

The armband has to go to someone who can read the game well, who can win and distribute the ball; who can lead, inspire and bollock people with equal measure, who has heart, passion and commitment, who can rally the troops/slap team mates around the head and wake the fuckers up (particularly at the start of the second half, conceding goals right from the restart is fucking unacceptable); get people to start talking to one another, and who know's maybe even having a go at playing a bit of football; does this sound like our current skipper?

In order to get that winning mentality back, with heads held high, the work rate and communication on the pitch need to improve, each player winning their battles all over the park. We need to get the basics right (again), forget last season, right now it means fuck all...hopefully we may get enough confidence back that we might start having the odd pop at goal!

But all of this starts with your leadership on (and off), the pitch (which at present is non existent), the only player we have that fits he bill is Neville (Valente needs to find his balls at left back). If you think we are getting any new blood in the January sales, you can think again; just like our invisible striker Johnny X in the last transfer window, we will be getting a new invisible left back and new invisible ball winner in the middle of the park. Blue Bill Cannie. (30/12/05)

Moyes Will Go - In His Own Time

I think that David Moyes will go. But not until he has proved all the doubters wrong. When he arrived he called us the peoples club and sparked a wave of hope We lost Rooney then had a great season. Throughout the whole time that David Moyes has been here I honestly believe that David Moyes has been honest, hardworking Brave and determined in everything he has done at our club. He can hear the abuse he is getting and any other manager would have walked by now. But this is David Moyes we are talking about Please keep this email on your site so all your doubters can read it at the end of the season.

David Moyes will be the next Man utd manager they have been watching him for many months and we have already seen in the press how he has a 'Special relationship" with sir Alex. The only reason Ferguson has not gone is because they are waiting for Moyes. He will turn Everton around and we will finish Mid Table then everyone will be saying "Great manager that David Moyes" Then he will go because he will still hear all the crap that was dished out when the chips were down Its all very well people writing in and claiming to have a rite as a supporter but i do not agree we should be attacking him the way some have. David Moyes can make Everton great again and he will finish his job. I Believe we have lost him already and he is destined to go to Man utd.

So well done all you so called Evertonians you have proved to me that the club is not the only thing that is in trouble It's our Fans as well. I actually think we could have won on Wednesday if a few decisions had gone our way. and i am not disappointed with result i am more disappointed with the way our fans Booed the team off the pitch phoned local Radio and demanded Moyes be sacked and we should get Peter Reid.What will we all do when Peter Reid has a bad season are we going to call for his head as well? we need to dig in and fight our way out of this and support the team? I was gutted to see Yobo move his head out of the way of Gerrard's shot for the second goal and David Weir's feeble excuse of a tackle for the third goal. How can you expect Moyes to put it right? does he click his fingers and put a few defenders on?

Yobo is a class international Player we need to be asking him why he moved out of the way of the shot not shouting for moyes to go. I would die for Everton I wouldn't move my head out of the way i would take the hit for the cause so why didn't Yobo? I would have steamed in with the tackle if i was playing for Everton.just like thousands of us would but why does Dave Weir stick a foot out like a 90 year old? playing footie down the park with his Grandson? These are the same players who last year were heroes. Is that David Moyes fault or the players? Sean Whelan. (30/12/05)

Well and Truly Over

I think Mr Moyes time at the helm is well and truly over! I for one am sick to the back teeth of him blaming bad luck and this ref don't like us etc.
etc! You make your own luck in football and we are quite clearly a rudderless ship at the moment! Poor old Davey has lost the plot! he's got grey hair now and we still don't care!!!! Stop singing his name and get shut of the useless prick! I can already hear the doubters saying "neh, but we finished 4th last year..!" "we qualified for the champions league!" etc etc, but to be honest I would have rather we never cos all we done was embarrass ourselves even more! Fuckin Notlob are flying in the uefa........! Moyes cannot be trusted with the purse anymore! Kroldrup, Wright, Valente, Pistone, Naysmith, Davis, Mcfadden, need I go on? and if we are led to believe Stubbs coming back!!! the shite are fuckin loving it! we are worse off now than ever cos we got no fight! one goal goes in and its heads down defeatist mentality!

I don't know who we gonna get in his place but his record speaks for itself! we are shocking, we got the worst home record in Great Britain! we are a laughing stock at this rate our goal difference will be a new all time low record! only Sunderland have conceded more goals than us, only Sunderland have lost more games than us! Come on Bill if Moyes ain't man enough to walk then get fucking shut and lets move on!

I got two young kids and they look at me like I am a twat, why does daddy support a shit team , and why do we have to!!!! at least I can recall the Glory of the eighties short lived though it was thanks to some wall pushing shenanigans in Brussels, But the poor Blues of the future have nothing to shout about anymore! "And if you know your history......!!" you gonna have to know it cos we got nothing else! Matt, Knotty Ash (season ticket holder Lower Gwladys)

KING CANUTE OF SOCCER

The blame for our sad demise lies fairly and squarely with Moyes and his coaching staff. They are the people who devise the game plan and train the players to play to the game plan. The present playing staff are all Moyes signings or have received new contracts through him. Moyes and his coaching staff are totally devoid of any attacking ideas whatsoever. Bang the ball down the field as hard as you can and run like the wind to catch it. How often do we have a player in the top third of the field capable of delivering a decent cross or a pass to a team mate? Moyes and his coaching staff by their methods have choked all manner of creativity from the playing staff. On the rare occasions that Beattie has received a half decent cross he manages to get on the end of it. Give him the service and he will deliver. He is a proven scorer. The ball is humped up to him in exactly the same way that it was humped up to Duncan. Beattie won most of the aerial balls in the derby game but he was isolated. Our players when in possession never look relaxed on the ball. They give the appearance of a suicide bomber in a market place. We go a goal down and Moyes stands there stone faced and is incapable or chooses not to make a change to get back into the game. The lack of goals has not just come about. It has been manifest since he came here. Beattie was a positive move but he has like every striker got to receive some degree of service. He is a striker not a defender. He was booked outside our area in the derby. He has cleared quite a few balls from our area from corners etc. We are so defence orientated it is now in the players psyche that getting forward is no longer an option. The DVD of David Weir's cock-ups will be in the club shop within the next few weeks and Bill Kenwright has given the part of Doctor Dolittle to Kevin Kilbane in his latest West End production. Moyes and Kenwright have got it stitched. Picture the scenario in a few months with Wyness trying to make a case for the increase in price of season tickets for next season. We started 2005 selling Tommy Grav and look at our record since he went. We want goals and not excuses. Jack Warner. Lifelong Blue. (30/12/05)

Why?

I am disappointed about the result last night, but if I am honest and lets face it Evertonians are, I can say we were beaten by a very good team. That's it really 'team'. We are not playing as a team and conceding that 3rd goal was a terrible end to our hopes of making a game of it. It's not the losing to them that really bothers me. It's West Ham, Bolton, West Brom, Villa and the rest of the garbage. Why do the shite appear to be heading in the wrong direction then from nowhere become a force again? Why do we go the other way? It's obvious their club is run far better. They can keep Gerrard. We can't keep Rooney. We are the poor relations. That's a fact.

Still, sacking Moyesy is not the answer. Bungalow Bill needs to get some cash together in January and it needs spending wisely. I think the players gave 100% last night but it wasn't good enough. Ask yourself a question. What will happen when Joe Yobo goes to Africa in Jan? I dread to think. On the subject of sacking, the first one out the door should that embarrassment, the MC. What the fuck is all that 'Mighty Blues' shite about before the game. Jay, Warrington. (30/12/05)

Derby match - Beaten out of sight

We were out fought and out played by a better team with better quality players who had the will to win and who were ultimately better organised. It's dreadful to see the depths that the current squad have plummeted to. There are the usual exceptions, with Cahill and Arteta, but forget the rest. It looks like we may survive again this season by the skin of our teeth, but it's just not good enough! Questions have to be asked? Of the managers choice of buys, of the managers tactics? and of the commitment of the board to back the manager in the transfer market? or are they too now having doubts about the manager?

The safety and security of the club in the Premier league is paramount, especially with the weak squad we have, and our precarious financial status. I've said it before and I will say it again! The honeymoon is over for David Moyes........it's obviously not working on the training pitch, as it shows on match days, with inept performances week after week! Something has to change for the greater good of the club, and for the fans sake, whether it be the players, the manager or the board. It may have to be...... out with the old and in with the new. Where the manager knows it's not good enough, there is a deathly silence from Uncle Bill................ Memo to Bill.....back him or sack him!

I have read a lot of the emails posted in the past months on this great site, and there are trends throughout every one of them, inconsistent performances and lack of quality players, and if the players, Manager and Board have read them, they would agree! We may scrape some points together in the next two fixtures, my guess would be 4 points, a win and a draw, against equally inept teams, but in reality....................... it's time for change, before it's to late! Mal (trueblue) but not holdings! (30/12/05)

Arteta

Was it just me, or did he try his best to get sent off after the first booking? Phill R - Exiled blue. (30/12/05)

It's Not His Fault

I'd like to add to the debate about whether David Moyes should stay or go. David Moyes is a good manager, there's no doubt about that. We've finished 7th and 4th in the last three seasons. He is however living off the back of that success at the moment and our poor run of form is not confined to this season. We've been poor all round since January and I bet we've not won 10 premiership games in all of 2005.

Getting back to my main point 'it's not his fault'. David Moyes does not have the technical ability and management skills of people like Benitez and Mourinho. He'd only managed Preston prior to joining us, so what do we expect? He's never going to be able to consistently compete at the top level without gaining additional management skills and technical development. So what are the club doing about that? He also has an arrogance about him that he needs to lose. This will surely lose him respect amongst the players. How can he persist with McFadden when the useless twat only scores about 1 in 20 games.

How can he spend £5 million on a great defender like Kroldrup and keep him on the bench for so long and play Weir (who is clearly past his best) week in week out.
Fact: Moyes does not have a clue how to get us out of our current predicament.
Fact: He's lost the players and they're not playing for him
Fact: We need to stop looking up to that fucking Mickey Mouse league (Scotland) for players and managers and start bringing people in from regions with talent. Time to go I'm afraid Mr Moyes and take those two useless fuckers McFadden and Weir with you. Alan Wainwright. (30/12/05)

How Much More?

WBA - 4-0, Bolton - 0-4, Villa - 4-0, Liverpool - 1-3. 4 games : Goals scored 1 goals against 13. Position 17th (3 points above relegation zone)

add to that defeats previously by the world powers that are Dinamo Bucharest, Wigan Athletic and Portsmouth and you start to get the picture. The only positive (if you can call it that) was the fact at 0-2 after 20 minutes we didn't collapse against Liverpool and actually showed some fight (if little or no skill and invention). At least now they have to shut up about no-one in the Prem scoring against Liverpool. Over the 90 mins they were better than us in every department, with Sissoko showing us what we missed out on and Gerrard being allowed the freedom of Goodison. What are the boys drinking at half time? Why do we concede so often straight after half time? That killed any hope of a revival -the sendings off just added to the embarrassment really.

Sure, the ref got it wrong over the disallowed goal and Beattie should have scored with 10 minutes left but they are just small points in a bigger picture of a team who finished below us last season showing what it means to push on towards achieving your goals rather than falling away back to where you came from.

So now we go to Sunderland (another footballing power) without Nev and Mickey. So that's any chance of a decent cross all game for Beattie down the swannie isn't it? If we should lose at Sunderland then Moyes has NO CHOICE but to either walk or be given a taxi ride. How much more? Bill Davies. (30/12/05)

Parachute

We need a parachute to stop our free fall into the championship. I would rest Martyn and weir give Wright a longer run in goal and play Ferrari at centre half don't know if we have any decent reserves who might make the step up but we should be looking to give anyone a go. After the failure to complete a pass to Ferguson in the last minute at old Trafford it is now easy to see why Marcus Bent has had so many clubs and I hope he can find room on the coach going back to Charlton as it is time for him to have a new club. We need a midfield general either on loan or bought in preferably on Sunday morning in time for the Charlton game as I expect our current form to continue on Saturday at Sunderland where they will probably get their first home win of the season. As much as I like Joey yobo I wonder whether it is wise to play him as he is about to fuck off back to Africa and it might be better to find another defensive pairing so as to lessen the blow before he goes. I think Big Dunc got a hard time off west ham's Collins but he should soldier on until the summer. Might be wise to see if Rangers would swap Michael Ball for Mc Fadden and Naysmith as our defence could do with a lift as could all Evertonians. So Happy New Year to Evertonians everywhere. Chris Simpson. (30/12/05)

Ashamed

What the fuck is going on? Just sack the twat. I'm so ashamed at the match tonite. I feel like never going again. we need new blood asap. Colin Mutch. (30/12/05)

Chairman Must Go

I am sitting at my desk looking through the emails on BK and wondering are your members missing the point about Everton FC, I am a company boss and know if anything in my company is going wrong it is my fault!!!! Ask yourself this question since Bill Kenwright has been the chairman has the team progressed? Have the facilities at Goodison progressed? (Most of the TV's out in the Park End Stand) Have the finances progressed? (Do no include selling our most valuable asset, a player who on the pitch could have took the team forward). The answer to all these questions as we know is No.

It's ok having blue blood (I have blue blood) but if you have no vision and no money how can you progress? The Chairman must go!!!!! John Y, A once proud Blue. (29/12/05)

Weir - No Captain

I think it's about time that Moyes bit the bullet and admits that installing Dave Weir as captain was a big mistake. He doesn't have respect from the players, doesn't instill confidence in anyone, and makes catastrophic blunders himself. Pass the captaincy to a midfield workhouse, possibly Neville, chuck Weir on the bench and get the £5m PK on the field. Him and Yobo should work well. ToffeeTaff (Martin Ware, S Wales). (29/12/05)

And Get Who?

All these people screaming for DM to leave. Who are you going to replace him with ?? It's the players who have to do it on the pitch. For Gods sake GET A GRIP. WHELAN. (29/12/05)

Coach Not A Manager

Moyes is a coach. A good coach like Harvey, Allison & Howe, but like them he can't manage. He has wasted money and cannot be given any more. DON WEST DERBY. (29/12/05)

Time to stop moaning and support the team

OK WE ARE SHIT BUT SUPPORT THEM WILL YOU OR DON'T BOTHER COMING TO THE MATCH. COME ON SUPPORT THEM. Sean Whelan. (29/12/05)

Villa Disgrace

This is bad. The Villa disgrace shows that we no longer have the characters in our team that will keep us up as we did in 94 and 98. No one was playing for his shirt. If this goes to the wire... we have had it. The sh1te will be rubbing their hands..... Merry f##@kin Christmas. Mark Warren. (29/12/05)


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