Everton
FC E-mails 227 - Stadium Special (7)
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We have had hundreds of mails on the proposed Stadium Move. We will put them on the site over the next few days Let common sense prevail Just a few simple words! We were the first team in Liverpool, Our fan bas is in Liverpool this is our city! while moving to Kirkby initially wont be the end of the world, in the long run we will be in danger of losing our identity! In 50 yrs time people will think of only the red shite as the only team in Liverpool, The Derby will become a regional derby! I couldn't care less what anyone says this is purely a money minded move! It cannot be allowed to happen, we are not going to fold next year if we don't move, the entrance of setanta to the TV ring have boosted all clubs revenue! A big new ground is not the be all and end all, look at Sunderland!!! Middlesbrough!!! we may move to Kirkby and continue to me mid table wannabes! lets get it right on the pitch first and foremost then we will be able to attract genuine interest and the scum red shite loving council will have to keep us in the city boundaries! Please don't let this happen! use your heart when the time comes to vote! the lies we are being told that this is our only option are just that!! lies! we must remain in this city, our city, our home! Matt (lower gwladys street L4 season ticket holder) I don't wanna be a L36 postcode season ticket holder!! (26/01/07) Stadium Move -
When Everton first played on Stanley Park it was outside the city boundary. Knowsley is an artificial council rimming Liverpool and should be incorporated into Liverpool. This came about as Liverpool Council refused to incorporate Kirkby and Halewood in the city as the Boundaries Commission suggested. Kirkby is in all intents a part of Liverpool, as is Bootle, Huyton, Birkenhead, Wallasey, etc. There is talk of extending Liverpool city to rightly incorporate Knowsley and parts of Sefton. The city always followed Everton. The
protracted stadium move over now 10 years has eaten at the club - this
results from poor club management. From the biggest in the UK Map of Anfield/Stanley Park 1889: http://i1.tinypic.com/3ycdl3s.jpg John Burns. (26/01/07) Old Swan, Kirkby...it's all relative Dear The Bear. Old Swan..Jesus, where I come from that's the suburbs, it's even got a 2-digit district number and pubs. You're even further out than Edge Hill, the final frontier. I used to go to Old Swan on days out during the Big Holidays. I'm sick of woolies telling us Scousers to go to Kirkby. Kind Regards. Phil deFluter. Granby Street. Princes Park. Liverpool 8 (note not f'n "Toxteth"..until `81 that was just a signpost in Park Road..only outsiders and nouveau domiciled call L8 Toxteth). (26/01/07) The
Goodison For-Everton Group met with Warren Bradley, Leader of Liverpool
City Council, on Friday 5 January 2007. The purpose of the meeting was
to establish what help has already been provided by Liverpool City Council
and Warren Bradley, to ensure Everton Football Club's stadium remains
inside the boundary of the City of Liverpool. Additionally, the Goodison
For-Everton Group also tried to establish what future help to Following the meeting, the Goodison For-Everton Group can confirm; - Over the last 6 months, Liverpool City Council have discussed 2 specific sites (one in the North of the City, one in the South of the City) as potential stadium venues with Everton Football Club. Liverpool City Council have additionally contributed to feasibility studies for each site, which have been provided to Everton Football Club. - Liverpool City Council have confirmed that within the last 18 months, Everton Football Club have not submitted any plan, nor discussed any possibility of re-developing the Goodison Park site with Liverpool City Council. Furthermore, Liverpool City Council do not rule out the possibility of Everton Football Club being able to secure planning permission (including possible expansion of the current footprint) for a re-developed Goodison Park. Goodison for-Everton understands that dialogue is planned in January 2007, between Warren Bradley and other members of Liverpool City Council and senior representatives of Everton Football Club. We urge both sides to use these discussions to fully explore every possibility of redeveloping Goodison Park and failing that providing a stadium site for Everton Football Club within the boundary of the City of Liverpool." (18/01/07) No To Kirkby To move to Kirkby would be a fucking disaster. Who the fuck wants to go there? Once we're out of the way in kirkby it would leave the redshite to get all the money from any future grants while we were left in the wilderness with fuck all. Any talented kids would then rather sign for their local club ie the redshite than move to some lower place in Kirkby. I can't believe those beauts who would throw away everything that is Everton in their pursuit of a new stadium you would have Dixie spinning in his grave. We would become a laughing stock like the MK Dons lets, just refit Goodison. We shall not be moved you can stick ya fucking kirkby up ya arse. Chris Simpson. (16/01/07) Stadium Vote After
reading all the views on the stadium i thought i would add my opinion.
So many individuals in life are so short sighted they are unable to see
past the end of their nose! Without any shadow of a doubt we must leave
Goodison Park. After seeing what the CountyRdBlue
sent in, i felt why shouldn't i voice mine!!!! I've spent all my life
going to Goodison and yes its given me some of the greatest moments of
my entire life just like it will have many of us. But anybody who follows
everton home and away like i do understands that it can no longer support
a premiership team. Its more than a corporate thing, its an average fan
thing. The facilities at Goodison are pathetic for the average fan!! Firstly
there is your seat! Then
The atmosphere has gone at Goodison which is sad. I mainly blame Moyes
for this, but that's another subject altogether. Whatever you all say
about the board, they will not rip the club apart like an abramovich will
eventually do or this Dubai investment group involved with liverpool.
Everyone knows this. So why not support the board. The only way everton
can generate money is through a new stadium. There is no other option
than Kirkby. Staying at Goodison is out of the question because of the
council wont allow them to build. Anywhere else in the city boundary is
out because the council wont give Everton an alternative site, yet they
will let liverpool do what they want. The council is the reason Everton
have to move out the boundary. So anyone who blames the board for this
is a fool blame the council they are using your taxes. It is entirely
Liverpool councils fault why everton have to move outside of the boundary.
Tesco's Motive I
have to say I agree with most of county road
blues comments, my views come from a similar position. I don't believe
that the site in Kirby is at the choice of the club. If you consider the
sitings of Tesco's already in this city then they have it pretty well
covered, including the expansion on Mather Ave. However, despite the fact
that I haven't been to Kirkby for some time, nothing against Kirkby, I've
had no call to go there, I can assume that the area isn't covered by Tesco
hence the reason they want to get involved. When I first wrote into kipper regarding our ground move (Kirkby move, keep it), I think that some of you may have got the wrong end of the stick. What I'm objecting to, is being pushed around by the money men, the various councils, the chambers of commerce and the plethora of 'partnerships' that are ruining everything in this country from the NHS to our Education system … we really do not need this in the game, we've got enough problems. I feel that the board are not listening to the fans but to corporate or commercial interests instead:- it seems the fans no longer have an influence on the clubs direction. To those of you out there thinking that we'll get a 'great deal' from Tesco, I say that you are gullible at best. The guv'nor of Tesco is a blue, but just like J*hns*n, I bet he's also a loyal is a red when the balance sheet tells him to be. Or does everyone forget when agent J*hns*n was (allegedly) supporting his failing business empire with our money. It may come as a shock to some to realise that Tesco is a multi national business empire who's priorities are to Tesco's shareholders… and no-one else. Oh yeah, Mr Tesco also has a reputation is for being tight fisted and ruthless when it comes to turning a profit for minimum investment:- that does not bode well for us. Believe me, when the global financial wind blows hard (and it will), it will be the EFC windmill which will be continually pumping money into his failing business ... only this time it will be on a tectonic scale (or he'll put us into more debt like the glaziers have done with manure or worse still, we could end up like dirty leeds). If Mr Tesco is a really true blue then surely he has the financial clout to keep us where we belong and walk all over this council if required ... We all know that money talks, so lets hear you shouting for us Mr Tesco. As for us, the fans:- we should be fighting tooth and nail to stay where we belong, we should be putting pressure on this lousy pink inspired council from all angles, we should not let them get away with the creation of the corporate brand of 'Liverpool' ... crapital of culture, the pink city. I've every confidence in Moysie keeping us in the premiership (even with our limited funds), so lets not dive at the first bunch of tenners/stadia that is waved in our direction. In the current climate we should hold our nerve, have faith and in time, an investor will turn up who does have the clubs interest and traditions at heart. The upside is that the longer we stay here, the more we annoy the pinkie councillors, their partners, our so called MP's and the pink norwegian home support. It shouldn't be taken as an offence to anyone that we want to stay within this city. Remember that we're all scousers, we're the peoples club ..... but we voted to stay here, so lets fight for it. CountyRdBlue. (13/01/07) Move On Re :Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum - Sir Terry Leahy was educated at St Edward's College not SFX as stated. Move on and stop living in the past, lets build our own identity. Let's go somewhere that we are wanted not pander to some red tinted corrupt councillors who are determined to run down the City. The Science Scholar. (13/01/07) Anywhere Will Do What ever happened to 'we don't care what the red shite say, what the fuck do we care, coz we only know that there's gonna be a show when the Everton boys are there!' ay, who gives a monkey's toss if we move down the road, to a place where the people are nothing but scousers? Where ever we are we should be supported. I don't understand how anyone can call themselves a supporter, and then moan about a proposed massive move in terms of the clubs future. It doesn't make sense to me. Even if we move over the water, or further than Kirkby. I don't care. I will continue to purchase my season ticket! COYB. Curwinkledinkle. (13/01/07) For The Good Of The Club The
new stadium debate seems to be causing a stir amongst everyone at the
moment. As an Everton fan that doesn't live in Liverpool, (does that make
me less credible as a fan?) I feel that the move can only help the club
in terms of keeping up and hopefully progressing higher than other clubs
in the premiership, as an increase in revenue, smarter facilities and
maybe even more future investment by Tesco can only be a good thing to
attract more fans away from the red side of merseyside and over to then
Blue. Back Leahy If moving outside the political boundaries of Liverpool means we aren't a liverpool club, then because i live outside of Everton does this mean most of us aren't Everton fans? How about those outside even Liverpool? are they not Everton fans? This is ridiculous. Nobody is remembering that when Terry Leahy retires, he'll be a board member for the club - and he is fucking loaded. If we want to be able to compete in the future, we cant ignore this investment in our club. Kevin Dacey. (13/01/07) No To Stadium Move I think that Moving to a new stadium would be a mistake to be honest because like in much new purpose built stadiums for example Sunderland or Manchester city apart from derby days they never fill the stadium and in result of this it makes the fans look like they are not committed, So I think that building a new stadium at the same size or just staying at goodison would be a better option unless we can be promised a capacity crowd every weekend or midweek game. Chris Marsden 15 from bramhall (13/01/07) Beware Whether you're pro or anti-Kirkby, what has happened to that other old venerable club the Arse since they've moved to the Emirates stadium bears a brief thought. While
their new stadium is undoubtedly nice and shiney, the atmosphere absolutely
stinks. the extra 20,000 they've got through the doors are far While
I, like many others are embarrassed by the rickety Bullens rd stand...any
new stadium...must repeat must be designed to help Evertonians Major Backer Please understand, without a major backer ie TESCO Everton cannot afford to build a new stadium. It's Kirkby or stay as we are...so forget about any alternatives. Anon. (13/01/07) Make Goodison into a Football shrine The place to go is Kirkby. Why we find it hard to leave is the memories of past victories. Goodison will always be a special memory, but time has took it's toll on the old place. Lets get going, Onward Men into a Newer better world. The powers that be have spoken. Let them give the Evertonians a place to spread their ashes. Mine included. COYB. John Lea (13/01/07)
Stadium,
Money, Possible Sponsorship, 4 Mile difference... What's the problem?
Say we have Liverpool Council in 1 hand, and Knowsley Council in the other.
In the Liverpool hand, you have Anfield, the Shite, Stevie G, and a 999
year contract for Stanley Park for the Shite. At the bottom of the pile
for Liverpool, you have Everton and Goodison Park. Us Blues are quite
clearly 2nd best in Liverpool. St Luke's Note for Andy Naybour. Don’t you fancy a compulsory purchase of St Luke’s as well then ? Steve Green. The Real Steve G. (13/01/07) Move On How can anybody suggest we redevelop goodison or the incredibly short sighted idea of adding a tier to the park end. I now reserve my judgement about watching games at the once famous old stadium preferring to watch Everton away from home due to the ancient facilities at Goodison. as someone who takes a disabled blue to matches the facilities at Goodison are embarrassing only Portsmouth are worse than ours. Goodison is now tired and past its 'sell by' it is time some people started living in the real world and woke up to the fact we simply have to leave Goodison to move forward as a club. bluesheik. (13/01/07) Ground Options I've
just been reading the views on us moving from Goodison and felt compelled
to write. Now I've not got any degrees in engineering but when i look
at photo's of inside our ground and see the aerial view i can't see why
we can't restructure the ground. Firstly we should take off the Park End
roof and extend the seating area out into the car park then add a new
tier, bollocks to the Directors parking spaces, once completed (it should
be able to be done pre season ) this then should give us enough extra
seats to close down Bullens or Gwladys St and replace these stands during
the season, when one is finished those seated in the other are moved to
the completed one. Once the 3 sides are done the main stand can be demolished
and rebuilt, as the 4 sides are being built all the corporate boxes and
welfare facilities can be added. What Do You Think? Have your say! e-mail info@bluekipper.com |