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New ground = New club I’m a lifelong Evertonian, now in my fifties. I will always be an Everton supporter, I will never surrender that right to support the team that I love. I will never support Kirkby. I was born in Everton and not Kirkby. Ground move? Load of idiocy! A Football club has only one possession and that is it’s home. Players come and go, managers come and go, directors come and go… even the fans in the great scheme of things come and go…….. The ground is a permanent fixture in all of this, it holds the memories and the identity of the club. New ground = New club. Rebucula. (21/03/07) Tom Cannon's Views Besides being a Evertonian, Tom Cannon is recognized as a expert on Football finance, and his views on the proposed move to Kirkby and our tie up with as he put it with One of the most successful British company's, gives another angle to Blues fans, regarding the move away from Goodison. He has studied the financial situation regarding any outside investment that might be interested, and what it would take to gain control if the board were to accept, and his views on the not so viable cost of the reconstruction of Goodison, were very forthright. Norman Merrill. (21/03/07) I've just read Leahy's propaganda about the kirkby move and I'm getting the feeling, that its HE and other wannabe's who wish to see Everton moved to Kirkby in order to get the city corporately branded with shi-'ite fc. They'll get their 30 pieces of silver and we'll get a shiny toilet bowl of a stadium …. with no church attached …… my community will be devastated in and around County Rd, (we'll be reduced to satellite businesses of the shi'-'ite, this includes a good number of blue pubs newsagents and chippies…..... so I'll tell you what, why don’t we do away with the toffee lady, Dixies statue & Z cars while we're at it. Fans of the blues outside merseyside will possibly not understand this. If the move happens, then please do the decent thing for every loyal Evertonian and change the name of the club to Kirkby United FC (FCUK anyone?), I for one do not wish to be associated, nor pay good money to a club that no longer reflects the wishes of its fans. I will remind you again that we voted to stay where we are, and this gentlemen is commonly known as 'democracy'. You will also notice that the words 'partnership', 'council', 'initiative' or 'commerce' do not appear anywhere in it. If you think that we cannot achieve our goal of staying, please look at the insidious way in which the shi'-'ite are currently nibbling away at their original ground plans, how they're covertly expanding them and how the council are keeping quiet about any extra land being taken up…... They're eating at Stanley Park like a cancer. Have we heard the council kicking off about how much room they're taking in Stanley park, have we hell …... like I said money talks, so come on blue eyes etc, you're all supposedly superfans, so gear this otherwise excellent website up to starting a campaign for staying. The timing of Leahy's comment is of interest, I notice that he has stuck his oar in just after the redshi'ites new owners stated that they were reviewing their plans for their pigsty, (methinks there's an echo of adolf here as he also claimed 'Lebensraum' in WWII … if y'know your history). Its becoming as plain as the nose on your face that the interested parties in EFC, knowsley council, liverpool council and shi'-'ite fc are possibly all conspiring in this. Look at the facts, we got stiffed by the council over the Kings dock move because we ran out of time with our bid, so exactly how long has it been since the shi'-'ite first mentioned the @nalfield move (5 or 6years at least)…. And still not one sod of earth has been turned yet ……. An accommodating council or am I getting paranoid? The bottom line is;- 'Is there really an Evertonian out there who would wish to see Everton FC relegated to the city boundaries' (no insult intended to the good folk of Kirkby):- should we stand back whilst our team is hustled out, the community surrounding Goodison destroyed (like it or not, these are your roots) and our so-called football crazy city to be eternally associated with quasi-religious protestant americans who currently masquerade as 'soccer' fans whose legacy no doubt will be 'We got the bluenoses kicked out of europe, and we kicked them out of the city'…. Can any true blue live with a future like that ….. Shiny stadium or not???? County Rd Blue. (21/03/07) New Stadium As
an exiled Evertonian living in the Midlands I get to see the Blues as
often as possible despite the distance. There are, however, two major
frustrations: Get It Right The
time is coming, moving day is near. Why do we have to go? The place
needs a spot of paint, a little modernasation. We will be alright. No
problem. It's done us ok, for over a hundred years. I love Goodison,
spent most of my youth going to the ground, seen the world cup played
in 66, watched Everton win in 63, memories keep me going back in time.
If we have to go, please lets get it right this time. No more fucking
around. The
Book of Levity Chapter 06-07. 1 And lo!
The tribe and multitude of Ever-ton was sorely puzzled in their tents.
For their Temple of Football was much in need of shekels and relocation.
And there was enough interest to stop the Faithful watching “Big Brother”
and listen. And it was much funny. Tommy Houghton. (21/03/07) Kirkby Move the liverpool summer pops has moved to aintree! shall it not be called the liverpool summer pops? after all it is outside the city boundries. lets call the sefton council summer pops. Tony Forsyth. (21/03/07) Ground Relocation Just a quick note on ground relocation. Is there a legitimate reason why everton cannot buy Anfield when they move? It is amazing what a makeover can do!!! Who cares if the shite played there we started there. It is the third best ground in the country and we need one now. Just treat it as another real estate deal. Lets face it by the time Everton have a new ground the bridge between us and the top four will be unbridgeable. If Bolton and their meager 20,000 support are the nearest challengers where does that leave us? We can't fill Goodison now why invest in a 55,000 stadium when there is a 45,000 stadium down the road with room for improvements. Buy it now before its demolished and our dreams go with it!! Hoping you can shed some light on this topic and wondering what can be done?? Regards. Brian Wyness(Possible Bully relative living in Australia). (21/03/07) We Must Move On Although I love Goodison park dearly the fact is the old girl is out dated, has poor sight in certain areas of stands and is not the future for us. Whether we like it or not one day we will have to move so why not now? I've seen so many people saying why cant we just update Goodison? The simple fact is by the time you've given Goodison a face lift you may well have spent half as much as you would have spent for a new stadium and we would be still with certain outdated features. Plus you'd have restrictions and who knows in another 50 years it would need updating again. I'm sick of so called Evertonian's saying "if we move that's it I wont support the club" in my opinion you're not a fan your just being selfish. I wonder all those years ago when we left Analfield if some "Everton fans" stayed behind saying "I'm not going to that Goodison Park....it just not right for Everton" and turned to the dark side???? Yes its sad to leave, I think it would be like leaving a girlfriend you know you love but cannot stay with her because of certain reasons. Stuart Smith. (21/03/07) The Move To Kirkby The thought of us giving the city up to the dirty red tw*ts cos the council is suckin their ass pisses me right off. Ok, we get a brand new affordable ground etc and whatever sponsorship money off whoever but the FANS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE MONEY, aren't we??? What about the fans who can't make it but have been attending for years? And the others who won't be able to make it? F*ck Kirkby right off... yeh that german ground sounds good but why do we have to move and Liverpool get to stay? We were here first. Eddie A. (21/03/07) We Need A New Stadium Hello to all at the excellent bluekipper, great site. I've just been on a visit around Wembley stadium and it really brought it home to me on how much we need a new stadium. Don't get me wrong, I love our old lady of a stadium, but she's just that, an old lady and a tired one at that. To move forward we need a new stadium and if we get one of the calibre of Wembley then we'll be moving in the right direction. COYB. Mark R. Bucks. (21/03/07) No To Move I
don’t want to move from Goodison and why should we?? If my facts are
correct these questions should be answered before any move is even thought
about, 2. Is there any truth in the rumour that the Park End Stand was designed and built with a second tear in mind? 3. If the current footprint did need to be extended why couldn’t the City council (that are so keen to help out the Shite) allocate a small plot of land the other end of Stanley park and build a new school or better still why don’t we EVERTON FC incorporate the school into our new ground after all we are the school of science, this would enable us to move the Bullins road stand. These are just a few thoughts which I feel need to be looked at. Mike Dodd. (21/03/07) Should We Stay Or Go With regards to Tom Cannon who brought the last shareholders EGM to the table accusing the board of mismanagement, lack of any investment etc. A few days before the EGM withdrew his accusations to work with the board. For what aim? Well to be on the board himself ultimately. Mr Cannon has always wanted this for his personal kudos. He recently called any dissenters of not wanting to go to Kirkby as and I quote " From another planet". So only their opinions count? It's sickening to read his brown nose board ramblings when the same guy ran away from the shareholders AGM because he and his friends were not re-elected like a kid whose ball was taken away. He then set up with the help of others deemed more professional ,(yes they called other shareholders not professional because they were voted out, see Echo 'night of the long knives') to form the shareholders 2005. Be careful about what this man says fellow Blues. This deal for kirkby suits the money men at the club not the fans long term. I'd rather sit tight build the team and wait a bit longer than take a desperate deal by desperate men. Tesco only, I'm led to believe, get the free land if Everton come on board or a big leisure company. Think of our long term future and our kids. We are always being divided to be conquered, it's all very sad. Kings Dock anyone? Most fans wanted this and was never accomplished because of boardroom vanity. A paltry 30 million for an unbelievable site etc. A mortgage handed out like most of us have in type was thrown away. So I ask do certain people on the board love themselves more rather than the club first? When
we move it will be for the rest of our footballing lives at my age.
It has to be the right move long term, be very careful of the coming
PR. It's interesting that yet another man who lives away from the City
wants us away from it. Ian Macdonald. Independent Blues.
(21/03/07) Goodison Park You only have to take a look at Manchester City to see that we would be better off staying where we are. They can't fill their ground and all the atmosphere of a football match has gone. I know Goodison is old and now relatively small in comparison to other so called "bigger" clubs but I just feel that its our home. Its what makes us intimidating for away teams. Fulham up graded the cottage so why can't we update Goodison? I live in the midlands but come to as many home games as possible. I just feel that moving away from Goodison and then moving out of Liverpool itself would leave us with no sense of purpose. Empty. Re-develop Goodison. Lets keep our history. Our tradition. Our history and most of all, our home! Craig Love. Kidderminster. (21/03/07) Kirkby Move It will happen sometime… I really don’t want to leave Goodison Park but it will have to happen sometime. We can’t stay at Goodison forever, so while we have a great offer lets move. Should we bury an Everton shirt under the Shites ground like Tottenham did? It would make them even more shite. Martin1878. (21/03/07) No Move We shouldn't move. MacIvc. (21/03/07) Move Surely
a precedent has been set? The Dark side get a piece of Stanley Park.
Why not us? Personally, I don't agree that it should be used by anybody
for anything other than a park. That said, has Gordon Clegg asked about
the availability of any spare land? Would the council take him seriously
after the "Kings Dock fiasco"? What's all this bollocks about
wanting to be able to use this new stadium for concerts and events etc? New Stadium in either Liverpool or Kirkby I have read that the proposed new stadium will probably be modeled on the Rhein Energie Stadion Koln (Cologne). Well I have been in that Stadium and although its modern, its not a move forward for Everton In my opinion. There are gaps in the 4 corners, similar to what Glasgow Rangers had before some of them where filled with seating. A stadium similar to Celtic Park would be a better choice.....If we go with a design like the Rhein Energie Stadion we may as well stay ay Goodison.!!! John Worrall. (21/03/07) New Stadium Over
the past five years I have heard numerous rumours about a new stadium
for Everton but none have developed quite like the proposed move to
Kirkby. I find myself torn between my love of Goodison and the atmosphere
before, after and during games. And the knowing that a new stadium could
lift Everton to the next level (top four). The big question is whether
Everton should move out the city to achieve this. Liverpool city council
seem to try there hardest to hinder any proposed move, as was seen when
the Kings dock bid was made, even though funding fell through. The built
up nature of the city limits the possibilities further. The hurdles
towards a stadium in the city just get bigger. Ground Move I have just read and digested for the third time all the comments relating to our proposed move to Kirkby. And like every EvertonIan have an opinion. When talking of industry and major player’s surely one of the biggest developments is the sale of Mersey docks to Peel holdings, a massive company who own among other things the Trafford centre and John Lennon airport. Surely with the land available (all by the way on the waterfront and prime redevelopment land) they would be a perfect partner for us to stay in the city. One piece of land that springs to mind is behind the heritage market (river side) where they held last years summer pops. There is so much prime spare land in the city, Kirkby should be last on the list, and Tesco should have no say in any way as regards our future, never forget without fans there is no future, and Everton belongs to the fans, its time big bills vanity and procrastination's’ of undying love were given a reality check, and like Barcelona the club given back to its true custodians the fans who pay every week. Michael. (21/03/07) To stay or not to stay?? I
think this is a brilliant site and I've read, with growing interest,
the debate about our future home.We may have no say in the matter, it
might be a done deal or there may be no alternative than moving to Kirkby.
There again it may, as the club tell us, just be an exploratory discussion
with other interested parties about the possibilities of providing a
home for Everton FC. Obviously not being an intellectual like MBE, I
want to explore possible options that may or may not be "Practical"
but until every possible stone has been turned to see if we can find
our new home in Liverpool, I would counsel caution about moving out
of the city. It isn't anything to do about the ancestry of the people
of Kirkby, we know that people from Liverpool settled there and their
children are as "Scouse as I am." No one should be talking
about Woolly Back Land or any other derogatory statement about the people
of Kirkby. Mickey Blue Eyes The
article by Mickey Blue Eyes will, hopefully, do what it says on the
tin and crush all the myths and half truths currently doing the rounds
about the protracted saga that is the new stadium and it's proposed
site. Stadium Mania Just thought i would respond to the M.B.E stadium mania piece haven't really read it all but whatever happened to the Goodison For EVERTON (G.F.E) plans remember printing it off a few years back. I hope the club stays at goodison but we must have redevelopment and those plans at the time looked ideal, great site lads keep it up have been logging on for last 4 or 5 years at least and never let us down on 1st rate news & info on our beloved club. COME ON YOU BLUES! Cheers, The Blue Budgie. (21/03/07) Gwladys Street Now The Away End From the look of the plans at the Goodison site, The Gwladys Street Stand would be the new away supporters area. Have a look at the plans and see if you agree. How would this go down with the Gwladys street faithful. Dar. (21/03/07) What's The Problem? I can't believe the amount of arguing that is going on about our proposed move to Kirkby. I am from Kirkby, although I have moved up to Geordie land, I travel down every other week to watch the blues (Season Ticket Holder Top Balc) What's the problem, everyone who is saying its outside the cities boundaries, do me a favour, Kirkby still has an L postcode. the move will generate massive income for Everton and Knowsley by creating jobs etc. Also can I point out, where is Old Trafford, its not in Manchester its in Salford, a different city!!! Talk about following the blues, grow up lads and lasses, prove you r a true blue and back them, after all I bet you will still go the match!!!! Great site lads. Inny. (21/03/07)
Very good, excellent in fact. Keep it up. The truth will out. Rich Welsh Blues. (21/03/07) What Do You Think? Have your say! e-mail info@bluekipper.com |