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Learning Curve Or Naivety

Haven’t wrote for a while because we had such a good first half of season but after the sale of Mcfadden the pressure for places on the strikers seemed to be lifted. Although I was not his biggest fan he was worth a goal in a big game so I would have waited till season end to sell him or at least bring in Nugent or someone to keep the fight for places on. Our Europe run was amazing but we should have brought on a defender instead of an attacker when we went 1-0 down in first leg that would have been a better score to bring back to goodison. In the league a run of poor performances against Spurs, Blackburn, Fulham and West Ham threaten to blight all the advancement that has been made this season. Just got in from the derby with the laughter of the redshite ringing in my ears. Why have Gravesen, Valente and Fernandes on the bench and play a lightweight midfield against the team we are trying to overtake? Why was Victor allowed to go and play for Nigeria when leaving us with one striker? At the time of writing there are still 18points to play for and the fat lady hasn’t entered the stage just yet, lets see a motivated team turn out for the last six matches and anything can happen. Everton forever. Chris Simpson. (04/04/08)

Robbie Wakenshaw

I’m a non-Everton fan (Arsenal, in fact), but this morning, for some reason, I had a craving to check out details on a briefly flickering Everton flame from the 80’s. I thought his name was Keith Wakenshaw - of course, it was Robbie. My memory must be failing, as I also thought that he scored the only goal in a derby match but his goal was against United. A bit of a failing by me, especially as I’m sometimes known as the Oracle amongst my soccer friends.

Anyway, after finding the answer on your site, I skimmed the other questions and found Gareth’s request for info on a 50’s game. Everton played Burnley at Goodison and won 1-0 on Christmas Day, 1951. Due to Everton’s relegation, they did not play each other at Goodison again until 26th January, 1955, when a bloke named Jimmy McIlroy notched for Burnley. Incidentally, he had scored Burnley’s last goal against Everton at Turf Moor on Boxing Day, 1951 (back in the days when the reverse fixtures were played on consecutive days during the festive season). I assume that the game Gareth was talking about is the 1955 game. I can’t confirm Everton’s scorer (I assume that’s easy for Sting Ray to do) as my collection of Breedon Books Complete Histories doesn’t include Everton, but the Burnley book has at last started to pay for itself, 15 years down the line. Regards, Frank Hajncl. Sandringham City Soccer Club (Melbourne, Australia) (04/04/08)

Fans At Blackburn

Being stranded in north Cumbria, mid way between Carlisle and Gretna, I choose to watch Gretna play whenever I can't go to watch Everton, but since Gretna were knocked out of the SFA cup by the mighty Morton they never had a game on Saturday 2nd Feb 2008 so the players had a day off.

I went to my local gym on Sunday and recognised none other than Aurilien Collin, Gretna's 22 year old French defender, plays number 29 if you're really interested. I asked him what he did on his day off. He told me he went to watch Blackburn against Everton. He said, and I quote, "The Everton fans are unbelievable. They sing all the time. Just noise, the whole match, even when nothing is happening. Crazy." He was smiling though in admiration at the dedication of the fans. Then he noticed the Everton crest on my shorts and smiled again. This time a knowing smile that we understood each other. Well done to all at Ewood. Gwladys.
(04/04/08)

Dixie Dean

Only read your Dixie article today what a fantastic tribute to who can only be described as the greatest Evertonian ever. God bless the great man. Steve. (04/04/08)

Tony Hibbert

Why oh why are we signing an inept right back for another 4 years? He can't complete a pass, he hasn't taken an opposition player on in 3 seasons, his skill level is on par with table football player, he's frequently booked, he's not exceptionally fast and scores as much as John Merrick did in his lifetime. Surely I am not the only one who sees him as the team's weakest link. Can you think of another? We need him as a squad player, if that, and use Neville as right back and use the midfielders with quality such as Arteta, Manny, Cahill, Peanuts, Osman, Carsley. Maybe another dogged MF, to counterbalance the skilful players. Martin Ware. (04/04/08)

James McFadden

There seems to be much weeping and wailing regarding the departure of James McFadden on some similar forums. I cannot really understand this as he has not exactly set the grass alight in his time at Everton. I have to admit that he has had limited opportunities but every opportunity he was given was squandered. I believe he was given 29 starts in the 05/06 season, your stats ?, but really did fail to capitalise and was subsequently dropped after most disappointing performances. He may well have been played out of his favoured position as well but he did not have the technique to be a Premiership striker. He wanted too much time on the ball and had little or no pace. Having said all of that there were the odd moments, Charlton, when he showed what he was capable of. Unfortunately this would be followed by another desperate performance.
Every time I saw his name on the team sheet my heart sank. Nobody ever knew which McFadden was about to start. Was it going to be the enigmatic McFadden or the lazy sod McFadden ? I do wish him well but sincerely believe that Birmingham have been mugged ! John. (04/04/08)

Alan Ball

I was having a bit of a tidy up today and although I know you have stopped the Bally tributes I thought you might be interested in some of his comments. I found them in “View Point” a column in the programme from 4th September 1971 vs. Derby County. He is talking about his relatively poor form in the 1970/71 season.

Bally says: “Certainly there was no question of being worn out by too much football. I thrive on playing the game and would willingly play three times a week.”

Alan was not worried by a shareholder’s recent criticism that his style of captaincy was too “volatile”.

Bally says: “People are entitled to their opinions. I think my way is best for me and I hope the players and Mr Catterick are happy. At least the manager was satisfied enough to ask me to lead the side again this year. I never sit down and think about the honour of being Captain; it’s only when people remind me that I realise I am privileged to lead one of the great clubs”.

I did not know he was such a fiery little bugger, we could do with a few more like him! Secondly I believe we were privileged to have him. Dave Phillips. (04/04/08)

Mikky Touted Again, Well everyone has a price.

Mikky Arteta is happy playing for the best team in the world, he just signed a new contract so why is his agent spouting off? Well its all about money ain't it? or is it? Deep down Micky has realised that he ain't going to get picked for his country unless he moves to Spain or play for The Arse or Chelski. So what happens if the London, Madrid or Barcelona clubs ask how much, and if the cash is on the table will Moyesy sell him? Every player has a price, my guess would be £16 mil, would that offer be accepted, you bet it will and I for one would thank Mikky for everything he's done for us and wish him well for the future.

Truth is our midfield is light weight, "our enforcers" Cars has got another season in him, Nev? na. We got out muscled this year and we need hard powerful guys to boss the midfield so Leon, Tiny, AJ and the Yak can create chaos. £16 mil will give us 2 of these guys plus change for a couple of younger guys to boost the first team squad. Sorry Mikky if the price is right...... WayneWales. (04/04/08)

Support Everton

All this palaver about supporter's slagging each other's players off and abusing is nothing new. As a life long supporter and season ticket holder I sit there week in and week out listening to the Gwladys street moron's singing the same old shite about Gerrard and this at games against Portsmouth, West Ham, Birmingham etc.! Then there is the usual "murderers" chanting that goes on alongside it as well. Is this supposed to drive our players on that bit more in games where we are struggling to stay in the match? (West Ham? Chelsea? Fulham away?) I think not! Other than the Fiorentina game I struggle to remember any worthwhile backing we have given the team this season and feel Goodison is becoming the new "Highbury Library" as the lack of atmosphere is shocking. I wasn't at anfield on Sunday so can't comment on that lot but by all account's it was as bad and the manager too quick to criticise us before taking account of his own fans actions. So in the last few games let's get behind the team and give them some backing that will have a positive effect and forget all the sick stuff that has no relevance in football. JIMMY. Crosby. (04/04/08)

Spitting On Fans

I am currently sick of the criticism that our football club is receiving after the recent derby match. I was at the game and the behaviour of the liverpool fans is far worse than that of the Everton fans. I would also like to point out the behaviour of a small number of kopites who yearly spit from the upper anfield road. I believe this behaviour is far worse than the criticism of singing at footballers like Gerrard who is earning about 100 grand a week and lets face it probably couldn't care what we sing because he expects it. I do however believe that it is unjust that we are made to look like the bad guys when they are singing more and worse songs (ie about Carsley and Neville's children) and spitting onto us, something that I have never seen happen at Goodison or any other away ground. I think uefa got it right when they not us were named the worst fans in Europe. Siobhan Quinn. (04/04/08)

The Echo Bias

I agree with the article by Kevin Latham on the Echo bias toward the r** s****, but it's nothing new, I've watched the Blues since the early fifties (my late Dad from the twenties) and throughout this time the lack of balance in reporting on the Blues has at times been staggering, Harry Catterick banned the Echo from the ground in the sixties because of stuff they were printing.

A friend who is a reasonable red supporter (yes there a one or two about) has even criticised the comments in the Echo about the Blues, but you have to remember that in the recent past, a couple of Echo stooges have ended as directors of the r** s**** enough said, perhaps it's time for Blues fans to boycott this rag and it's sister paper the post until common sense prevails? Regards Bill Thomas. (04/04/08)

Wrestlemania 2008

My lads Ben (14), Tom (12) and Frank(10) had a sleep over Sunday Night / Monday morning and spotted a Blue Chang shirt a few rows back in the 78,000 fans watching the pantomime of the WWE annual event at the Florida Rose Bowl. Not only was he proudly displaying this at every opportunity he even had a hand written sign stating "FEED THE YAK". Fantastic - who was he? Did any one else spot it? Great website keep up with the great work lads. Much appreciated from the Perrin Household - "Blues till we die". David Perrin. Linslade Blues. (04/04/08)

Lift From Monchestaaaar

If there are any blues needing a lift from Manchester on match days, I have room. Regards. Steve Henshall. (04/04/08). If you want a lift e-mail info@bluekipper.com

Derby Game

One point to make in my email about the Derby game is that during the second half when all the little RS rings were going tweet..tweet...tweet, I think that kid and his dad who threw the ball away and wouldn't give it back for an Everton throw-in should have been thrown out of the park. Bad conduct, but what can you expect when it was said here on Toronto radio by G. Gillett that other fans threatened him and his family with death if he sold any shares to his partner. Must say I have never seen or heard of that before. Eric Owen. Toronto , Canada. (04/04/08)

Keep Your Nose Out Of Scouse Affairs

I stood in the away end at last season's derby listening to 'that Gerrard baby song' booming out. The same song I'd heard a hundred times at Goodison and every away ground in the Premiership. Not a single word was written about it in any newspapers. Last week I was in the kop listening to the same song booming out again. Not one kopite complained. Mind you I suppose quite a few of the new age kopites don't understand what it's all about. The translation is lost on some of these Scandinavian types. On a side issue these 'reclaim the kop' boys are facing a loosing battle. Scousers are few and far apart in the kop these days. Anyway I digress. What the kopites did in retaliation was to chant about Lescott's scar on his head, Cahill's brother being banged up in jail, and cruelly about Carsley's kid.

The only difference this season was that once again the redshite manager has spoken out of turn. He said to the press that the song wasn't nice. Too right it wasn't. What does he expect? We should sing his praises. Get a grip you fat Spanish waiter! Keep you nose out of things that you don't understand. Liverpool is a city were people work hard and play hard. Fans from both clubs take the piss out of each other every day of the week at work, in the pub and on the terraces. It's a scouse thing. It's what we do. Anyone whether it's a southern softie journalist, or a foreign manager they should all keep their noses out. They don't understand the hard Scouse wit. It's none of their business. I didn't hear Steven Gerrard complaining. If he did he knows he'd get it 10 times worse. When we get together in the Gwladys street we sing the praises of our team and take the piss out of the opposition. There are no rules. It's hard hitting, nasty and yes cruel, but we don't do it to be nice. Franny. (02/04/08)

Derby Game

Now that I have succumbed to the fact that the shite did us again, I suppose it is back to the drawing board. We have had a fantastic season, let's not forget this, and I just hope that the Arse do it over them, I want to see the shite lose every time. As a child of the 60's/70's, being a Blue was a nightmare with that cocky shower, I just love to see them lose.

Here's hoping for a good end to the season - even from 12000 miles away, it hurts. But there is a small chapter of Blues growing here in Cambridge NZ. I am trying to educate the locals about the REAL history of football in L/Pool and pointing out that they are the bastard child of a mighty footballing force in it's own right. Come on you Blues. All the best. Steve. (02/04/08)

Gerrard Gets Away With It Again

I just want to have a Bitch really about everything that happened this weekend just gone, but I’m not going to. All I will say is can anyone find a picture of that red nose bastard Gerrard stamping on Harry Hill. I can only assume that he tried to pull out of this as well as the one on Naysmith. I hate that F*@~+*G PRICK. Daryl Long. (02/04/08)

Never Ever Lose Faith...

I live, breath and sleep Everton. When we lose you can undoubtedly write off the next couple of days as the grief you get off your “mates” is simply unbearable. Are we different to other Premier League fans? I genuinely cannot pin-point what it is but I do feel we are. Is it because the vast amount of supporters vividly remember when we were the best in the business and others remain oblivious? Possibly. Being an Evertonian is my religion, my passion. Having said that since the Kirkby stadia issue reared it’s ugly head I have definitely felt different about the way I feel about the club and it’s owners. For me a move outside the city would finish off a lot of Evertonians and the sheer emotion they have for the club would simply diminish.

We may have lost the local derby and the Champions League riches that came with it, but I genuinely believe we have won the greatest prize of all, for we were born Evertonians. I can admittedly accept Liverpool were the better side and deserved the three points, we simply weren’t good enough. Throughout my life, Everton have brought me many good memories, whether based on success or not. For me it is an enormous experience, a life-long process to be a blue. There is joy, there is frustration. At the end of the day, only ourselves know what it means to be an Evertonian. For me, I have never once regretted that I was born to be a Blue, regardless of how many trophies our neighbours have won.

The sad thing is that the more Everton Football Club hurt you the more you become immune to the hurt. I crave and desire for this club succeed and yesterday was nothing short of an utter knife blow to our aspirations. People just don’t comprehend that I want my club to be back up there, standing proud, I refuse to settle for anything less, we must have ambition. I don’t remember those days when Everton sat proudly at the top of the league table, however, I know my history. The Blues have and will always mean so much to me, words don’t do it justice. They are my life. I'm driven through highs and lows, by the Club that sometimes makes me feel on top of the world, and, at other times, that life's not short enough.

Remember what Everton legend Brian Labone said, One Evertonian is worth 20 Liverpudlians. I am proud to say I am part of the Everton family, we are a special breed of people. Evertonians never lose face, never ever lose faith. Joe Jennings. (02/04/08)

Anthony Gardner

Why? Martin Liptrot. (02/04/08)

Derby Day Blues

Like all Everton fans this morning i'm hungover and disappointed we didn't show up at ANALfield but we didn't so we deceived to be beat and lets face it it could've been worse! Mr Phillip Neville needs to have a word with himself for the reaction he gave when he was subbed. Mr Model Professional?!? He is lucky he is playing for us never mind being our captain! However, 4th isn't over cause The Shite's next game is Arsenal away so if they lose and we beat Derby County on Sunday, it's like the Derby didn't happen STILL 2 points behind! Look at the fixtures coming up and think positive we have 3 home games they have 3 away lets make Goodison the advantage and push for 4th. They will SLIP UP! COYB! Peter McCole. (02/04/08)

Live TV Curse

Apart from European games-have we actually won any of the televised matches this year? If not, am I correct in thinking that the Chelski and Villa games are therefore cursed? MJC. (02/04/08)

Wimbledon v Everton 1986/87

I'm a Wimbledon supporter (still alive at AFC wimbledon!) and was wondering if you could help. I am trying to track down a copy of the Wimbledon v Everton FA Cup 5th Round at Plough Lane in 1986-7 when we beat your bloody fab side 3-1...still don't know how but anyway... I know it was broadcast live on BBC and I'm sure it was a Sunday afternoon... Stupidly I didn't tape it cos I was on the terraces at the time. Do you know of anyone who might have a copy of this tucked away, or of any other Everton sites I could contact to try and get hold of a copy? Love the site! Hope you can help. Many thanks, Marco. (02/04/08). If you can help e-mail info@bluekipper.com

Transfer Window Pot

I never really thought we'd get forth anyway and to be the best of the rest will be very commendable. The only gripe I have is this combative midfielder we've been desperate for for 5 years still hasn't materialised I know there not waiting on every corner but Diara went to Pompey and looks a very good buy. I thought Sissoko was the answer next minute he's running round in a red shirt, begs the question why didn't we try to sign him when Liverpool let him go !. On transfers in the summer we along with Spurs Newcastle Villa and maybe City are second choices, all the top players will go to the top 4 who have a bigger pot and more chance of winning things, therefore if you are a good but not great player and you have a choice to come to us or say Newcastle what do you say to yourself, well Everton are a top 8 club with an outside chance of winning something but have offered £40,000 a week Newcastle massive under achievers but still outside chance of winning something £60,000 a week, doesn't take a rocket scientist does it. Yes we might beat other teams for the likes of Beattie and Johnson but who else was in for them Villa ( Pre Randy Lerner ) and Wigan. So until we get some serous investment, which isn't as easy as some supporters think it is, we will have to settle for top 10 finishers with the odd run in a cup. I've just renewed my season ticket for another year because as long as I can afford it I'll go the match, yes I'd love us to just win anything but I won't hold my breath. Regards. Kevin Jones. (02/04/08)

Why Does Nearly Everyone Think Moyes Is So Good?

Signings; Kroldrup, Van Der Meyde, Beattie, Gravesen (the 2nd time), Turner, Ruddy, Manny (2nd time), Bosnar, Said, Ferrari, Bent. (+Linderoth, Materazzi perhaps?). I'm sure I'm missing more. What a load of cr.. poor performers.

Even AJ and the diving Yak fail to convince me of their quality. Baines yet to show, Howard could do better. I'll allow Cahill was good last season, Roger is a good signing, Neville talks the talk all right, Pienaar can be clever at times. That's all we've got to show for his acquisitions in 6 years.

When talking about our beloved blues, most pundits start with Moyeses done a fantastic job at Everton, but..........but he's wasted a load of money, hasn't got a clue with substitutions, and if the opposition was more organised, we'd be nowhere. 5th flatters us and how we got through to the UEFA Qtrs with some shambolic performances, is beyond me. I will be relieved if we hang on to 5th, cos Pompey look a much better outfit than us. Sooner Fergie retires and Moyes gets 'promoted' the better. Perhaps he'll sell us Rooney back?! Martin Hughes. (02/04/08)

Refereeing Mistakes

Yo probably know this site but I thought I'd check : www.rightresult.net It corrects the scores of premier league fixtures influenced by referees getting it wrong and of course the toffees come out looking good and the red shite are a distant...

I was a season ticket holder all through the 70s and early eighties...but stopped the year we won the league cos I moved down to London - do'h, but I lived in wembley so saw us 3 times on the trot in my own back yard..!!!!! COYB - watching the Blues in Chillis Bar in Jakarta. Mark Owen - expat in Indonesia. (02/04/08)

West Ham Game

A couple of years ago we would have lost this. It's also a sign of our current strength that we feel pissed off to draw. Still, the pluses are a point and we have got used to a team with 14 players on the pitch. The worry for me was the leadened look to the running of the players. They looked tired and needed a spark. I don't think we'll make fourth spot in the League. The UFAR Cup yeah, as long as we don't 'Devon Lock'. Remember we support the great football CLUB in existence. We know about glory, but also about kicks in the teeth. Come on you Blues! Mike Berry. (02/04/08)

Charity Shirts

This is for those people who have bought the Pink Everton shirts and are now selling them on EBAY. I hope your donating the money you get for them to the Breast Cancer appeal. If anyone out there has or is thinking of putting a bid in for them PLEASE DON’T, unless you’re sure that the money is really going to the Breast Cancer Awareness appeal. I can’t believe there are Evertonians out there trying to make money off sick people. Bluenose Bimbo. (02/04/08)

Pink Shirts

I do a lot of volunteer work for the race for life team, as a life long blue and a season ticket holder for over 30 years, I am made up to see the blues helping the cause with the pink shirts. reckon they should get the girls team to use the for their away kit. Then they could sell them all of the time rather than in batches. Come on you Blues. Keith. (02/04/08)

So Proud

What a performance that was against Fiorentina. There was a time during the match when the whole crowd had the ground really rocking never experience an atmosphere like that before at any football ground. Walked out the ground feeling 10 feet tall with a big smile on my face. It was that good. Trying to put the penalties out of my mind because we bossed that game like I have never seen us do before. Just hope we can get the fourth spot. I will be totally gutted if we don't make it. What a team we have at the moment best since the 80's. Well done to all the players who were all fantastic. And everyone at the game for the great support. Tony Bilsborough. (02/04/08)

Loyalty

I have been a blue supporter for 56 long years. I have seen us win cups and 1st division championships and through the bad times when we nearly went out. I have cried when we have lost especially important matches, But not against Fiorentina. I know they gave Roger the man of the match but how could anyone pick just one player every one in that team was a star, loyal to the badge loyal to the fans and those fans who I have spoken to they all appreciate what they did Thank them all and thank David Moyes for building such a good squad, but was Tim Cahill injured or what A Blue is for life not just for champion league matches. Lees Mac. (02/04/08)

No Z-Cars

No cars or introduction of players as the sound system had a bit of a mare at the Brann home game. Wonder when the last game was without cars? Mid nineties? Just wanted to say thanks! I went on the BK trip to Bergen and had a great time. Kind Regards. John Needham. (02/04/08)

Thank You

My name is Oohntah (screenname obviously) from Nashville, USA. Your site is the best Everton site there is! I can’t go a day without checking out Blue Kipper. Love the Blue Blubber the most (some Toffees come up with fantastic stuff). Just wanted you to know how I feel about y’all. If you ever close down your site life would never be the same for me….I’m serious! Toffee fan forever and a day! Kopites are gobshite! Kevin Totty. Nashville, TN. US of A. (02/04/08)

The Offside Law

I asked the FA to explain the offside law. I got this back.

Law 11 - Offside

Offside Position

It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:
he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
he is in his own half of the field of play or
he is level with the second last opponent or
he is level with the last two opponents

Offence

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

interfering with play or
interfering with an opponent or
gaining an advantage by being in that position

No Offence

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:

a goal kick or
a throw-in or
a corner kick

Infringements/Sanctions

For any offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred.

Decisions of the International F.A. Board

Decision 1

In the definition of offside position, "nearer to his opponents’ goal line" means that any part of his head, body or feet is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent. The arms are not included in this definition.

Decision 2

The definitions of elements of involvement in active play are as follows:

Interfering with play means playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a team-mate.

Interfering with an opponent means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position. Louise Panteli | Referee Administrator
The Football Association.

Still B****** to me. David Lydiate. (02/04/08)


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